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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:23 AM Sep 2014

The Fight to Save America’s Last Great Ocean Liner



This rust bucket is the SS United States, a once glorious vessel now moored next to a South Philadelphia shopping mall, where it’s been sitting in decay for 18 years, racking up roughly $60,000 a month in rent. Paint is peeling off its hull. The interior, stripped of previously asbestos-laden innards, is mostly bare. It doesn’t look like it now, but it is possibly the most impressive watercraft ever produced by the United States.

Active from 1952 to 1969, the SS US carried civilians between America and Europe quickly, safely, and comfortably. In the late 1960s, the booming airline industry, equipped with the jumbo Boeing 747, rendered the ocean liner obsolete*. After nearly two decades in Philly, the ship has run up a huge tab and the SS United States Conservancy, a group that bought the ship in 2011 and intends to preserve it, is running out of money. If they don’t raise more funds soon, they’ll likely have to cede ownership, at which point it’ll likely be sold to the highest-bidding scrap dealer. “She is a very much endangered piece of American history,” says Thomas Basile, an adviser to the Conservancy. “We could be within a month of having to decide her state.”

A Marvelous Design

The history of the SS US dates back to 1916, when William Francis Gibbs, whose naval architecture firm later designed more than half the American armored ships used in World War II, started working on the ship’s design. He spent the next 40 years overseeing its completion, up to its 1952 maiden voyage. The U.S. military got involved and financed two thirds of the $78 million ($780 million in 2014) construction costs near the end of the process, when Gibbs pitched the ship as a way to bring hundreds of thousands of soldiers home from Europe.

Except for a few men in uniform moving between overseas posts, the SS US was never converted to a full-scale troop-carrier, but with the threat of the Soviet Union looming in the postwar years, it was good to know there was a way to move 14,000 soldiers over 10,000 miles of ocean without stopping to refuel.

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fight-to-save-americas-last-great-ocean-liner/#x

* As noted in the commentary, it was the 707 and the DC-8, not the 747, that cut transatlantic travel from days to hours.

I was privileged to be a passenger on the United States after living with my family in Europe for two years. It's distressing to view the state she's in now.

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The Fight to Save America’s Last Great Ocean Liner (Original Post) IDemo Sep 2014 OP
Kicking. Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #1
Sadly, that ship could be a metaphor for US manufacturing CanonRay Sep 2014 #2
Or simply a metaphor for the US IDemo Sep 2014 #3
^^^ This. Atman Sep 2014 #4
+1 L0oniX Sep 2014 #8
Sad. MynameisBlarney Sep 2014 #5
My parents owned a 1952 Plymouth Suburban station wagon. MineralMan Sep 2014 #6
What a beauty! My birth year, too. I had an opportunity to drive a Chevrolet of a similar vintage. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #12
I learned to drive and took my driving test in MineralMan Sep 2014 #15
I agree. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #13
My family sailed to Europe on this ship mommymarine2003 Sep 2014 #7
K & R L0oniX Sep 2014 #9
The loss of this historical ship is what happens when a nation Enthusiast Sep 2014 #10
You could probably remodel the state of Mississippi for the cost to restore that tub snooper2 Sep 2014 #11
We build beautiful things always patting each other on the back asjr Sep 2014 #14

CanonRay

(14,111 posts)
2. Sadly, that ship could be a metaphor for US manufacturing
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:35 AM
Sep 2014

Looking like that with "United States" on the side...gee, paint me a picture.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
5. Sad.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:40 AM
Sep 2014

Being in the boat building business, on a MUCH smaller scale, I would imagine the cost of restoring that vessel would be prohibitive to say the least.
Hell, it's gonna cost a fortune to scrap it.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
6. My parents owned a 1952 Plymouth Suburban station wagon.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:43 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:29 AM - Edit history (1)

It went to the scrap yard decades ago. It served their young family well, and I remember camping trips taken in it fondly. It was a good, utilitarian vehicle that survived until the early 1960s. Then, its wheezy flathead six engine threw a rod and the car took its final journey to the local wrecking yard, where it was converted to scrap metal to be used, perhaps, in a new car. It looked just like this one:




The SS United States is of the same vintage. It will never ply the Atlantic seaways again. Time to scrap it and use its massive quantities of steel for other purposes. That's its best use at this time.

That's my opinion.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
12. What a beauty! My birth year, too. I had an opportunity to drive a Chevrolet of a similar vintage.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:52 AM
Sep 2014

It was an eye opening experience. I had never operated a column mounted manual shift.

I'm glad there are a few restored examples of these old cars. They are a rolling demonstration of the advancements in engineering and manufacturing.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
15. I learned to drive and took my driving test in
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:30 AM
Sep 2014

that 52 Plymouth. I'm still driving a manual transmission car today. You're right though, today's automobiles are a vast improvement over that old wagon.

mommymarine2003

(261 posts)
7. My family sailed to Europe on this ship
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

This picture makes me feel like an antique! We moved to Germany (military family) in 1969 and sailed from New York City to Le Havre on this ship. It was a beautiful ship in its day.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
10. The loss of this historical ship is what happens when a nation
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:44 AM
Sep 2014

decides to stop taxing corporations and the wealthy.

There is no revenue for worthy projects like restoring the SS United States.

We have to make these bad choices because the nation has adopted supply side economics to the detriment of all.

Imagine the developing nation without revenue. We would have none of the great highways and bridges. No Hoover Dam, no TVA and no great medical research discoveries.

Geez, people, trickle down is a bad idea. Preserving our history is a great idea.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
14. We build beautiful things always patting each other on the back
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

for being so smart to create them. I am old enough to remember seeing the British ship the Normandy during WW2 docked , I believe in Philadelphia or New York. She caught fire a few years after the war and was gone in no time. Was always puzzled about that. I smelled a rat. If it was deliberate no one ever acknowledged it.

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