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BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:18 AM Apr 2012

Okay, this Doc is scaring me to the extreme...

It's airing on "Link TV" right now as one of their pledge drive segments...
I've never seen it before, and not so sure I want to know the information.
http://crisisofcivilization.com/

The weather globally has been so off the charts and this doc
explains why.

Don't get me started on the fracking research I've been reading on top of this.

What in the hell are we doing to this planet?
And why do we continue despite the blowback we are already seeing?

BHN

On Edit- Besides fixing typos, every time I see a baby these days, I can't help but wonder why anyone would
bring life into THIS world. I would love to be a grandma one day, but am really glad my daughter
has decided against having a child. I worry for my child and even more for the ones being born today.

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
1. there is nothing that you can do about it
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:24 AM
Apr 2012

other than everything you personally can to affect your own small space. So don't be afraid and do what you can to make a positive change where you can.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
2. You are right- and yes I do, but I am an ant trying to stop a tsunami.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:33 AM
Apr 2012

At least that is the way I see it.
It's too late and far to few people even think about it.
I'm changing the channel- I can't watch it anymore.

BHN

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. turn it off
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:35 AM
Apr 2012

and live responsibly and that's all you can do. Fear will destroy what good you can get out of life.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
6. Yeah- I did turn it off...Can't watch it knowing it is too late.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:42 AM
Apr 2012

People are in complete denial about the stress on the planet and
the inability for life to continue to be sustained on this planet as things are-
I don't want to think about it anymore today.
Can't do it.

I recycle EVERYTHING.
I garden.
I try not to drive if possible, which is hard where I live.
I do all the things that we should be doing as a species
but I feel like Sisyphus more and more every day, truth be told.

BHN

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
8. MAKE them watch this documentary before they have babies...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:50 AM
Apr 2012

and ask them if this is the future they want for their children.

The only children who will survive have parents who are millionaires/billionaires
and are responsible for the destruction of life as we know it.

They won't give a damn about the hell your children's children will face.

BHN

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
5. I'm the same way
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:36 AM
Apr 2012

I'm glad I don't have children. My nephew is going to have a baby next November. I too wonder why people still have kids with this earth in such a mess. And with the nuke plant from Japan that we still don't know how that is going to effect us. The Gulf gusher, Fracking, Drilling, pollution in general. This election has me thinking if we lose everything, I am hoping 12/21/2012 is real. At least it will be a quicker death for us.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
7. My nieces and nephews are breeding like rabbits-
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:46 AM
Apr 2012

I've lost count of the numbers but feel nothing but dread when
I think of what those children will face in their lifetimes.
My daughter is 25 and I have nothing but fear for her future.
BHN

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
9. I am glad I did not have children
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:24 AM
Apr 2012

but I am so concerned for my nieces and nephews. I am appalled that nothing is being done to address it.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. I know exactly what you mean. None of the Egalitarian siblings have spawned
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:34 AM
Apr 2012

and I think that seeing where the world is heading was the main reason. I've spent my life hoping to be wrong, but each passing decade turns out just as predicted. As for Mother Earth, I think George Carlin nailed that one, too. If we're an irritant, she'll just shake us off like a bunch of fleas and go on about her business.

For some reason I find the knowledge that 99.98% of every species that ever lived on her is extinct to be comforting. She'll be just fine.
K&R

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
11. Here is the worry I have expressed for years on DU-
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:08 AM
Apr 2012

I don't see much of a future for our species survival-
We are destroying everything we need to survive at an accelerated rate.
Meanwhile populating in numbers known to be unsustainable given
the remaining resources; so okay we are, like it or not, headed for the
"endangered species list" with the exception of the global elite- who have no problem with a massive "die-off"
as far as I can see.

HOWEVER- what about what we are leaving behind for other species?
Nuclear plants and waste- a rotting water supply, oil spills, droughts, failing
food systems...et al.


What will become of the critters? The fur, fin and feather people when we
finally destroy our/their habitat? How are they to manage failing nuclear plants in the future?

And you know we will, eventually drive ourselves to extinction, it is inevitable at this point.

I can't watch the movie "The Road" anymore, because it has
become a futuristic documentary for me.

BHN

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. I know what you mean, and I feel the same way, but...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:19 AM
Apr 2012

... I do find it helpful to remember your username:

Be here now.

During the Bush years, I vacillated between thinking "That's it. There is truly no hope for the America I grew up in" and "There has to be a tipping point" (I had just read a book by Al Franken in which he'd talked about tipping points). As it turned out, there was a tipping point, in 2006, at very nearly the last minute, but that's probably when tipping points kick in.

I'm scared too. But...

Be here now.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. It is frightening,
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:21 AM
Apr 2012

and there is little you can do to stop it.


"While being chased by a hungry Tiger,
a man accidentally ran off the edge of a cliff.
He was able to grab on to a branch,
but upon looking down,
he saw another hungry Tiger waiting for him at the bottom.
He looked up, and saw that the 1st tiger was waiting for him at the top.
He could not climb up or down, and he couldn't hold on to the branch forever.
It was then that he noticed some wild Strawberries growing on the side of the cliff.

It was the best Strawberry the man had ever eaten."



In 2006, my wife and I moved to The Woods and started living as sustainably and green as possible.
While we can't save the World,
we have been helpful in our local rural community,
and that is enough for us.

Our Strawberries are just now getting ripe,
...and they are looking really good this year.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
14. Thousands of jets over just the USA at any given time. Engines on full throttle.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:38 AM
Apr 2012

But for most people a trip to Hawaii is just a vacation.

We'll only start to change when we're conscious of the truth. And the truth is that, for example, hundreds of thousands of cars are moved from Santa Rosa to San Francisco every day. That is tons of steel for each vehicle that carries one puny 200 pound fleshy human. I saw it with my own eyes a few days ago. I couldn't believe it. Yet it's a daily ritual for the poor fuckers who do it.

It's too late. And I go back to things like (as important as it was) the Berlin air support. How much carbon dioxide emissions did that create? How many people think about this stuff? Me, and a very few others. When most people are thinking this way...well, by then it'll be over.

And just in case anyone thinks I'm hot air, I am involved with a start-up company to manufacture fuel cells. I'm trying. But I feel hopeless.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
15. Another example. The things we take for granted.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:11 PM
Apr 2012

One combine in a field looks pretty innocuous. Think again. And also, when one does the calculations, Americans living their incredibly comfortable lifestyle, use the equvalent of 100 slaves working 12 hours per day. Think about that. But most people just can't think.


This picture shows just how much work is required in order to thresh. That little trip to the market is similar. But it all looks so clean and easy.
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt1k40191c/hi-res.jpg

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
18. This is one of the reasons that I don't believe that we should travel to other planets
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:02 PM
Apr 2012

If we are not evolved enough to take care of our planet and its life sustaining environment, I don't believe we should have the right to run around and do the same to other planets.

The other reason that we shouldn't go infect other planets is that we are cruel and inhumane to the inhabitants of this planet.

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