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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDeep Breath: George Zimmerman deserves justice.
Not just for Trayvon or Trayvon's family or for himself, but for us; for the American judicial system- flawed and fucked up as it is.
Political boards on the net, across the spectrum illustrate why it's critical. The facts need to be brought to light and examined for all to see. That's what his parents, who have been fantastic examples of dignity and courage under stress and while in great pain want.
The results may or may not be satisfactory- and if it's a plea bargain they probably won't be even if Zimmerman gets jail time, but the process is important.
Oh, and I'm not telling anyone else to take a deep breath: I took one before posting this because I don't imagine it'll meet with a great deal of approval.
Bo
(1,080 posts)Is a fair trial even possible in a 24/7/365 news media cycle?
I have been contemplating this question and I believe the founding fathers never imagined this "zoo" taking place.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Obviously justice prevailed in spite of the circus.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)If the cops fucked this up so badly that real answers and justice cannot be obtained,
then THEY need fair trials all around.
no_hypocrisy
(46,160 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)no deep breath needed.
hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)Yours, Cali, might be the least accusatory and I credit you with possibly doing some self reflection in posting it, but nonetheless...
I've seen no one here calling for a lynch mob. Nearly all I've seen here--no matter their personal feelings on guilt or innocence, have simply wanted him arrested and charged and for there to be a CHANCE of justice prevailing.
So, for the next 8 or 10 DUers wanting to post something like this, please don't..... It isn't necessary and increasingly your fellow DUers may resent being condescended to.
Beyond that, post your thought in one of the MANY threads that already exist. DU really doesn't need 1000 OP's that all express the same thing.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)one can barely read a post about any of this without having -speculation- presented as hard evidence.
Fact is, none of us know very much about what happened, but that doesnt stop most americans from spewing nonsense.
Im glad dude is in custody. That he killed a juvenile and was walking free was absurd. But remember the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)"But remember the burden of proof is on the prosecution." <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Case in point.
Totally unwarranted, given my post.
Totally unnecessary and clearly meant to be condescending.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)What does that have to do with opinions posted on a goddamned Internet message board?
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)justice. Justice is for the living not the dead. In a way it is also justice for society.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The thing that pissed people off was no charges being filed when there was dead body, a gun and a confessed killer. If the jury decides Zim is innocent then so be it. Thats our system.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)evidence that will satisfy some people. We live in a different world now. What the Hell do facts have to do with it?
bigtree
(86,005 posts)he'll get much more than he afforded the young man he shot.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Joseph8th
(228 posts)... we (Americans) want a fucking trial. That was always the point: the police corruption and racism is what enabled and encouraged Zimmerman to think he could murder an innocent kid in the street, in cold blood, and walk away with a pat on the back. There is no separate justice for Zimmerman and Martin.
There is only justice.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)hope the system worked.
Chemisse
(30,816 posts)He would have learned that he can't get away with murder,
And he would not be in the position he is in now.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Zimmerman will have his day in court and in that justice will be served.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)As one whose served on a jury and seen how the judicial system can work I am a strong believer in how the system can and does work. One thing for certain...it doesn't connect dots...speculate or try to fit narratives to serve agendas...it's based on fact and the law. It doesn't rely on some long lost brother or self-annointed talking head or "anal-ist" to project what happened it will go with what evidence is available and determine if laws were broken and then decide guilt or innocense. Now I know this doesn't sit good with those who already made up their minds and will find fault with anything that deviates from their pre-determined "justice", but fortunately we still have this system. Now let's let it work...because if it doesn't, we all have lost a major part of our "freedom".
Bake
(21,977 posts)Let the process play out. THAT is what our Constitution guarantees to every citizen--due process of law.
Nothing but approval of your OP!
Bake, Esq.
TBF
(32,086 posts)and now we'll watch the trial. Well, some will watch and others like me will just watch for stories here on DU. I am hopeful this is a good prosecutor - she could've gone for the easier manslaughter charge but she didn't. That makes me hopeful that she has evidence, a plan to present it, and we will see justice done.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)This is one case where I think justice is best served by going to trial rather than a plea bargin as more is at stake than just the guilt or innocence of George Zimmerman. A plea bargin would cover up the shoddy, perhaps criminal, police work at the crime scene, what the role of the dad has been in this and a number of other items as well. And I think this prosecutor understands that side of the case as well.