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pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:11 PM Sep 2014

Repubs like McCain want us to forget why we pulled out all troops from Iraq in 2011.

Bush was the President who signed an agreement with Iraq to pull out all troops by then. Obama would have had to violate the agreement the US had signed in order to leave some troops when we withdrew in 2011.

Obama did try to negotiate with the Iraqis to leave a small number of troops, but the negotiations failed, because Obama insisted on a clause in the agreement giving the troops immunity from the legal prosecution that some factions of the government there were advocating.

So when people like John McCain castigate Obama for pulling out all the troops, they conveniently overlook the fact that Obama had no choice, unless he was to unilaterally break the agreement the US had signed a few years before. That would make all future US agreements and treaties worthless. And Obama wasn't about to put any remaining troops at risk of prosecution by some faction of Iraqis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/all-us-troops-to-leave-iraq/2011/10/21/gIQAUyJi3L_story.html

In a Friday morning video conference, Obama and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki agreed to a complete U.S. military departure that will fulfill a promise important to Obama’s reelection effort. The decision drew sharp criticism from his Republican rivals, as well as expressions of relieved support from those who believe it is time for the United States to conclude a war Obama once called “dumb.”

For months, U.S. and Iraqi officials had been negotiating the terms of an accord that would have kept several thousand U.S. troops in Iraq for special operations and training beyond the year-end deadline set by the George W. Bush administration.

But Obama and Maliki, who have never developed much personal chemistry, failed to reach agreement on the legal status of U.S. troops who would stay in Iraq beyond Dec. 31. As a result, only a contingent of fewer than 200 Marines assigned to help protect the large U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad will remain, along with a small number of other personnel to provide training related to new military sales and other tasks.

SNIP

The negotiations foundered over the U.S. demand that American troops receive legal immunity for their actions, a request Maliki was ultimately unable to sell to the anti-U.S. elements of his governing coalition after a war that many Iraqis believe has permanently altered their country for the worse.

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Repubs like McCain want us to forget why we pulled out all troops from Iraq in 2011. (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2014 OP
What would have happened? kentuck Sep 2014 #1
We all know atreides1 Sep 2014 #2
Did anyone on CNN bring this up dhill926 Sep 2014 #3
I didn't hear them do so but I wasn't watching that carefully. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #4
... napkinz Sep 2014 #5
... napkinz Sep 2014 #6
I tried to make this point in a right-wing blog OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #7

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
1. What would have happened?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:14 PM
Sep 2014

If we had agreed to put our GIs under Iraqi law?

What would John McCain have done if 2 or 3 American GIs had been arrested for murder and the Iraqis put them on trial? What would John McCain have done??

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
2. We all know
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:32 PM
Sep 2014

He would have done what he's doing now, putting all the blame on President Obama!

I really believe that McCain is suffering from dementia and he's grasp of the "facts" last night is a a good indicator!

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
7. I tried to make this point in a right-wing blog
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:54 PM
Sep 2014

After being called everything from a Quisling to a communist, I was told Obama should have negotiated to keep U.S. troops in Iraq...that was Bush's intention. The stupid there hurts.

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