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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPerspective: What Michael Moore said about GWBush
I would like to apologize for referring to George W. Bush as a deserter. What I meant to say is that George W. Bush is a deserter, an election thief, a drunk driver, a WMD liar, and a functional illiterate. And he poops his pants.
http://www.alternet.org/story/17676/you_say_deserter,_i_say_more_dessert...
Adam051188
(711 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...who has done more to inform us of this country's ills than anyone else in the last 30 years.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)But then we have a few DUers who are so twisted by bush that they attack, not bush, but Moore for his free speech. Sad to see.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Mira
(22,380 posts)I love and respect him and have ever since I first saw Roger and me.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)That was a pretty big deal, you know.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)None of them things any other president should wish to be remembered for.
I think Obama has accomplished more than just being the first black president, but he is no FDR in my eyes, and that remains the gold standard of a noteworthy Democrat in my book.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)dope
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)That's quite an achievement.
Represent!
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I will personally carve him a monument in the shape of a pizza.
Now realistically, how likely is this losing streak going to continue? LOL.
Archae
(46,345 posts)Until that last sentence.
That was simply juvenile.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)There are some indelible gross images of the Bush swagger seared on my inner eyeballs like smallpox scars that will never go away. That was one of them.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)- breaking on DU
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Won't satisfy the BOG, however.
cali
(114,904 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Most monarchs and many leaders end up with a cognomen -- a name which is added before or after the person's name, like Ivan the Terrible or William the Conqueror. I think Bush will go down as Bush the Idiot. One does not get to have more than a single defining characteristic so it must be chosen with care.
To proclaim that Obama might go down as the first black president implies he will be followed by others. And MM himself acknowledged this was no small achievement. I hope the first woman president may well be remembered more for being female than for being the spouse of a previous president, but this is yet to be seen.
This weird idea that we can predict how people of the future will perceive our era or that our opinion will have any influence on future notions of what long dead presidents have accomplished is absurd. Aside from a few old statues left behind, people will have nary a clue who they are. Or do you think the whole damn mall in DC is going to be littered with memorials to all the string of ineffectual and incompetent presidents we have endured in the 20 and 21st century?
Cad Bane
(68 posts)Glad to see you rallying around Moore and trying to take a shit on supporters of the President, not to mention just people in general who don't like the racial attacks on him.
Good to see where you stand.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)He supported Nader in 2000.
Fuck Michael Moore as the racist fuck he is.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Do you read history ....and did you ever watch any of MM's Documentaries?
What is YOUR background compared to those here who lived through those years and know the truth of what went down.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Florida would ahve never been close enough to result in the SCOTUS decision.
I lay 2000 100% at the feet of Nader and his supporters NATIONWIDE.
Every last one of his supporters bears the responsibility of everything that happened from January 20, 2001 to January 20 2009.
I've been involved in Democratic politics at the grassroots level since 1976.
I will always consider the Green Party more my political enemies than the Republican Party. The Green Party purposefully forces Democrats into two front wars so they cannot win.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)A lot of seniors voted for Pat Buchanan by mistake and were denied new ballots.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)plus Gore giving in too easily.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)GWB was a poopy-head.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)While I wasn't happy about his comments about Obama's administration, something about what he said struck me, not as "racist", or even prejudiced in any sense, but rather, one of cynicism and disillusionment. And there are a fair number of Democrats and other folks on the left out there who are, to some degree(in fact, I was, myself, for a good while).
And to be truthful, just jumping the gun, and assuming somebody is a racist, or a sexist, etc., simply because they may express disillusionment with Obama, is not at all helpful to anyone, period. Especially not on sites like ours.