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MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:10 PM Sep 2014

In my opinion, Adrian Peterson should get the same treatment

Rice got. Indefinite suspension from the NFL and release by the Vikings. He has apparently admitted "disciplining" his child. In this case, he whipped the boy with a supple switch. The results can be seen in the photos of the child. Open wounds from this "discipline." What kind of father whips his child to the point of bleeding? If someone did that to an adult, it would be a serious crime. Whippings are illegal as punishment for adults. They should be equally unacceptable for a child. Even more unacceptable, in my opinion.

Why should he be fired and lose his football career? Because he behaved in a way that should be condemned by all civilized people. The punishment should reflect that condemnation.

Open cuts from being whipped. On a 4-year-old child. What could a child of that age have done that would warrant a whipping that severe? I cannot think of a single example of anything a child that age might have done to deserve that kind of mistreatment. I don't think a child that age is capable of such behavior.

If we think back about whippings and who was whipped as punishment, we end up thinking about slavery and cruel slave-owners, who frequently turned to the use of whips. It was wrong then, too. It's still wrong today, and even more wrong when applied to the arms, legs, and genital area of a 4-year-old boy.

Fire this cruel man. Ban him from professional football for life. Punish him in the only way he will understand. Do the same to the wife-beaters, dog-abusers, and anyone else who commits unconscionable violence. A few such firings and bannings would quickly put an end to the belief on the parts of some NFL players that they can do anything they wish, no matter how cruel, and suffer only minor inconvenience.

I'm tired of this stuff. Completely tired. I want to see action that is commensurate with the noxiousness of such behavior. Fire them.

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In my opinion, Adrian Peterson should get the same treatment (Original Post) MineralMan Sep 2014 OP
It's significantly worse in my eyes Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #1
Yes. As I said, whipping a child is even more unacceptable that MineralMan Sep 2014 #2
I totally agree and jail time Kalidurga Sep 2014 #3
Jail time will depend on the courts. MineralMan Sep 2014 #4
I think jail time should be automatic Kalidurga Sep 2014 #5
True, that. hifiguy Sep 2014 #7
I have to agree and I have been a hifiguy Sep 2014 #6
There has to be punishment Lurker Deluxe Sep 2014 #8
Too many threads calling him his son or child...!!! hexola Sep 2014 #9
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
1. It's significantly worse in my eyes
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

That's a 4-year-old child, not an adult. There's blood drawn multiple times, and it's clear that this is a pattern, not a single incident.

As bad as the Rice incident was, there's an extra special layer of badness that's required to be violent to a toddler.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
2. Yes. As I said, whipping a child is even more unacceptable that
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:21 PM
Sep 2014

striking an adult. Both are unacceptable, though. Aside from criminal consequences, removal of the privilege of making a living as a wealthy professional athlete seems to me to be an appropriate punishment.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. I totally agree and jail time
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:37 PM
Sep 2014

Jail time isn't up to the NFL of course, but he needs hard time. Sorry, I know our jail system is horrible, but that's a separate issue.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
4. Jail time will depend on the courts.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:43 PM
Sep 2014

But, he admitted whipping the child, so the NFL should terminate his ability to play football. Send a message, NFL.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. I think jail time should be automatic
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:48 PM
Sep 2014

after a trial of course. But, this will probably go to jury and if I understand it's in Texas. I am not hopeful the jury there will see this the same way a jury in Minnesota would.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. True, that.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

There was a prominent criminal defense lawyer on one of the local sports talk shows yesterday - the host is, if not a hard lefty, miles to the left of the vast majority of the cro-magnons on most sports talk radio - and the lawyer couldn't figure out the Texas statute at all. His primary question was how you can "negligently assault" someone, which is the essence of the charge. It is a very strange statute. By definition, assault is an intentional action and not caused by "negligence". I am an attorney and I am equally stumped.

That said, if he faces a TX jury, he will probably walk.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. I have to agree and I have been a
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:17 PM
Sep 2014

die-hard, purple-bleeding Vikings fan for 45 years.

The sad thing is that Peterson was probably beaten like this himself i his own childhood and can't get his head around why this is so wrong. It's a vicious circle and a depressing one.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,038 posts)
8. There has to be punishment
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:43 PM
Sep 2014

Certainly there has to be consequences to actions like this.

But is it an employers responsibility to punish it's employees?

I don't think that it is. Certainly the NFL can put into place rules that state that if a person is on probation they are ineligible to play in the league, and if they are charged with a crime they can not play (or be paid) until the resolution of that charge.

But where do you cut off this level of punishment?

DUI? Theft? Bar fight? Drugs?

I think it is up to the justice system to lay down the punishment for these types of issues, and stop with the preferential treatment of athletes. Ray Rice was not charged with any crime, how do you justify taking his career away from him? Just because there was a tape? What happens next time when there is no tape? Is just an accusation enough?

Very tough call IMHO. Should Jerry Jones be forced to sell the Cowboys? Should Irsay be forced to sell?

Preferential treatment is the issue to me. Promise if I was busted with OWI and 4 counts of possession I would not get it plead down to simple OWI and time served of two f'n days. Everyone cheered as the ignorant old man who owned the Clippers was forced to sell his team, but not a peep about an NFL owner actually charged with crimes and getting off with a fine that amounts to a quarter to a non billionaire.

Does this go away in a few months until another horrific tape pops up in the tabloids, or some sickening pictures of clear child abuse?

I say force the legal system to do it's job, force the NFL to create rules that make it impossible for people on any kind of probation (including child protective service restrictions) to participate until that probation is cleared. And under no circumstances are felons allowed back into the sport in any capacity.

And not just the NFL ...

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
9. Too many threads calling him his son or child...!!!
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:47 PM
Sep 2014

It was his girlfriends kid...

That makes it even worse for Peterson...

He has no role as a parent here...IMO.

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