not realize they had never been recognized as such. That brings me to the others who died in the Holocaust but were not Jews: homosexuals, communists and the disabled. How have they been recognized or are they all setting outside the ceremony with the Romani?

they make a point of stating that people from almost every country and ethnicity were murdered in the death camps there and at the other Nazi death camps. What I found most haunting and shocking were seeing photos of victims - photos taken by the Nazis PRIOR TO being gassed. They all look so human - like they could be our contemporaries.

K&R

Auschwitz while her husband survived capture by the Russians and later fighting in Italy with General Anders, Monte Casino etc.. They were Polish Catholics.

Too many Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Roma, Politically unwanted(by the Nazi's), and Homosexuals died in the camps.

a rightful place in history.

died in the camps than of any other culture.

There are so many facts like the targeting of Romas, homosexuals even certain Christians is well known to those of us who are fairly familiar with the basics about the Holocaust and the NAZI regime. It's really sad, but most people just don't know much about any era of history.

I went to a well known chain store with my husband today. When we got the magazines at the checkout, we both laughed and laughed. It's all personal tips and movie star scandals. The only ones that dealt with politics were the National Enquirer (yes) and Vanity Fair (not so horrible). There was also an edition of LIFE that actually looked interesting. Beyond that, all vapid, star-struck nonsense.

The problem is much broader than just the Romas being forgotten. The noise of the trivia in our media deafens most people to real information.

ignorant, home skooled PukeBagger crowd starts tossing around "Nazi" and "Hitler".

It infuriates me how WWII is thrown around lightly, just to try to make some pointed political stab...disgusting and disgraceful...everyone, Dem and Puke alike, should immediately call them out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korkoro

Korkoro ("Alone" in the Romani language) is a 2009 French drama film written and directed by Tony Gatlif, starring French actors Marc Lavoine, Marie-Josée Croze and James Thiérrée. The film's cast were of many nationalities such as Albanian, Kosovar, Georgian, Serbian, French, Norwegian, and the nine Romanies Gatlif found in Transylvania.

Based on an anecdote about the Second World War by the Romani (Gypsy) historian Jacques Sigot, the film was inspired by the true life of a Romani who escaped the Nazis with help from French villagers, and depicts the rarely documented subject of Porajmos (the Romani Holocaust).[1] Other than the Romanies, the film has a character representing the French Resistance based on Yvette Lundy, a French teacher deported for forging the passports for Romanies. Gatlif intended the film to be a documentary, but the lack of supporting documents caused him instead to present it as a drama.

The film premiered at the Montréal World Film Festival, winning the Grand Prize of the Americas amongst other awards.[2] It was released in France as Liberté in February 2010, where it grossed $601,252; revenues from Belgium and the United States brought the total to $627,088.[3] The film's music, composed by Tony Gatlif and Delphine Mantoulet, received a nomination in the Best Music Written for a Film category at the 36th annual César Awards.

Korkoro has been described as a "rare cinematic tribute" to those killed in the Porajmos.[4] In general, it received positive reviews from critics, including praise for having an unusually leisurely pace for a Holocaust film.[5] Critics regarded it as one of the director's best works, and with Latcho Drom, the "most accessible" of his films. The film is considered to show Romanies in a non-stereotypical way, far from their clichéd depictions as musicians.

And probably my favorite segment of the film:

but I have had friends in the past who have some Roma ancestry and were very hesitant about sharing that fact, particularly if they were more educated. There is still, in this country, quite a bit of prejudice against "gypsies" and a lot of misunderstanding about them. I had a friend in college who was Roma and she actually was the one who told me about the Nazi killing of the Romani people. Her father had somehow managed to get out of Europe before the war but lost all of his family that remained there. Her mother's immediate family was here already but still had relatives in Europe and very few survived. She later became active in the Romani rights movement. The fact that she became educated at all is quite a tribute to her parents, as education for women is not necessarily prized among many Roma. Because of the Holocaust, Ileana's parents felt that someone should have the education to tell the Romani story to the world, so they made sacrifices to ensure that Ileana and her brother both stayed in school and got into good colleges. If I remember correctly, the brother became a lawyer and kept his practice primarily in the Romani community. Ileana, as I mentioned, got active in the Romani rights movement and traveled all over. I lost touch with her years ago.

There is certainly a lot of ignorance and casual bigotry towards Roma in the US - "He gypped me" is still relatively common parlance, even among people who otherwise don't use racial slurs. And I often get the impression that, to most Americans, "Gypsies" are folklore creatures from The Old Country, like werewolves or leprechauns instead of actual people. But I've never noticed them to be the target of outright racial hostility, the way some groups are.

But throughout Europe, even people that are otherwise pretty cosmopolitan and accepting really hate them. You know how our right-wing politicians and talking heads use dog-whistles to insult minorities? Their counterparts in Europe are totally down with calling them welfare-sucking thieves outright. And there is systematic discrimination today against them throughout Europe that rivals (and in some places exceeds) the Jim Crow era in the US.

And yeah, they were totally devastated during the Holocaust.

I used to use, as a tribute to Ileana and some other friends, the Roma wheel as an avatar on a couple of sites. Boy did I get some flak about it from Europeans, especially if I happened to post any kind of positive comments about the Roma!

In France it seems persécution of Roma never stopped. They are hazed by police and local population. Mayors denie the right to get an éducation to their children. The illégaux camps where they are livong zre rrgulary destroyed. .