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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSCOTUS knocking down the mandate might make single-payer inevitable
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-van-gelder/single-payer-healthcare_b_1416387.html
If the Health Care Mandate Is Struck Down, Single-Payer Becomes the Best Choice
by Sarah van Gelder
Co-founder and executive editor, 'YES! Magazine'
Posted: 04/11/2012 11:27 am
What happens if the Supreme Court strikes down the "individual mandate" in the health care reform law?
Commentators ranging from former Labor Secretary Robert Reich to Forbes Magazine columnist Rick Ungar agree: Such a decision could open the door to single-payer health care -- perhaps even make it inevitable.
This may be the best news about health care in years. Because ever since Republicans convinced the Obama administration to drop the "public option" in the Affordable Care Act, health reform has been in trouble. True, most Americans favor many of the provisions of Affordable Care Act. But the overall plan rests on forcing you and me to buy insurance from the same companies that have been driving up the costs of health care all along -- the same companies that have been finding creative ways to avoid covering needed care, shifting costs on to patients, and endlessly increasing premiums and out-of-pocket expenses for all of us.
Forcing all Americans into a failed system is bad policy, and it's not just President Obama's opponents who say so.
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SCOTUS knocking down the mandate might make single-payer inevitable (Original Post)
brentspeak
Apr 2012
OP
I fail to see how striking down the law will convince the GOP to vote for single payer.
dionysus
Apr 2012
#1
single payer is the better choice... but only if it can be passed. we need both houses plus a change
dionysus
Apr 2012
#9
dionysus
(26,467 posts)1. I fail to see how striking down the law will convince the GOP to vote for single payer.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)3. The GOP if they control Congress after 2012 won't vote for SHIT!!!
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)4. If the Democrats can regain the House in the next Congress
then the door might be open to get single payer legislation passed. Maybe.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)9. single payer is the better choice... but only if it can be passed. we need both houses plus a change
in fillibuster rules.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,436 posts)5. If the mandate is struck down
then a new solution will need to be found- but it won't be the Republicans finding it (or even helping). PPACA isn't perfect but it's better in a lot of ways than the previous system and will probably be the best to hope for at the national level for the short-term. In the long term, allowing states to experiment with single-payer systems and having them prove successful (thereby enabling it to eventually spread nationwide) might be the best way to go.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)2. Single-payer has always been the best choice. Still didn't happen. n/t
librechik
(30,676 posts)6. it has always been the best choice--powerful forces make too much money off the status quo
to let it happen.
spin
(17,493 posts)7. Why should healthcare be for profit?
Non-Profit vs. For-Profit health Care: How to Win the Looming Battle Over Cost Control
By Steven Hill
May 27, 2011 8:30 AM
The United States is facing some daunting economic challenges, not the least of which is our broken health care system. The U.S. spends nearly twice as much money per capita on health care as other developed nations, yet the metrics show that Americans end up with worse care and poorer health. Moreover, American businesses are spending way more on health care than their international rivals, making them less competitive in a global economy. In truth, our hodgepodge health care system is going to bankrupt the nation if we dont figure out a better way.
The Obama health care plan was a step in the right direction, but only a minor one. By the time it is fully implemented in 2014, it will have increased access to health care for millions (though not all) of Americans who currently have no health care. But it will have done little to rein in costs. In theory, cost controls should be a goal that Republicans and Democrats can agree on, yet it will be an even bigger political battle than the previous one over access. Thats because to rein in costs it will not be possible to tinker around the edges of a broken system, as the 2010 health care reform did. It will be necessary to fundamentally overhaul the system in ways that powerful special interests will fight.
At the root of the grotesquely expensive and inefficient U.S. health care system is the fact that it is a for-profit system where corporations have incentive to charge premiums as high as they can get away with, while at the same time providing as few patient services as possible. Thats the basic formula for how any business maximizes profit charge more and spend less. Yet those incentives result in perverse outcomes when the goal is providing health care for all Americans. In short, the U.S. health care system prioritizes profits before people, yet to deliver quality, affordable health care it is necessary to do just the opposite.emphasis added
Health care for people, not for profits
Americans could learn a great deal about how to design an efficient, cost-effective and humane health care system by looking across the pond. Europe has substantially achieved what America has yet to figure out how to enact universal coverage and quality care at an affordable price. And surprisingly, many European nations have accomplished this without using a single-payer system, or socialized medicine, as it is sometimes called.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/05/nonprofit_vs_forprofit_health029839.php
The entire article is worth reading. We can design a far better healthcare system, but we have to scrap the one we have.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)8. Two-thirds of Americans want single payer
aka Medicare for All
But both political parties will fight it, tooth and nail.
Shame.