has to pass this along. I know you are not excusing it I am just commenting.

Both of my parents were physically and mentally abusive. They beat us bloody, bruised and at times unconscious frequently. There were 3 of us. I never touched my kids in anger, the middle brother never had kids but was as tender an uncle as could be and would never have lashed out. The two of us worked at learning our way out of it because we got it the worst. Our youngest brother who was occasionally but rarely compared to us is a different story but thankfully has never been married or had kids and I kept a distance with him until mine were grown.

I hate that these stories come up whenever this kind of thing happens. Yes anger and violence beget the same but not if you are committed to stopping it. He could have stopped it but he did not. Creep.

My mom & her sibs were verbally abused and got beatings. My mom never laid a hand on me.

Isn't part of the idea of getting to pro sports --the dream -- to have a BETTER life for yourself & your family?

think it is to be better for them. Any tiny thing that gets in their way and even momentarily takes the focus off their personal peace is worthy of being crushed.

My own opinion from experience with a marriage where physical abuse was never an issue but the mental torment foisted on all who were not functioning solely for the momentary pleasure of the husband/father/friend was discarded rather harshly. It was ALL about them. Seems the sport, as well as many other things, nurture a kind of narcissism and in these cases brutality. Lack of impulse control and images of a heroic nature go right along with them.

None of this has any basis in actual scientific knowledge, it is all based on my own experience and subsequent help. IOW's just thinking out loud.

soooooooooooo so sad. I just don't know what to say.

Do these replies and replies like them represent some consensus or they just an exercise in catharsis by the most vocal. I pray it's the latter.