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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts) Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:10 AM Sep 2014

US will have ‘many more’ 9/11s if it fails to act against Islamic State – House Rep

If the US fails to attack Islamic State (IS) militants in Iraq and Syria, the country could face the prospect of “many” terrorist attacks similar to September 11, a top-ranking Democrat says. It comes as the House debates arming Syrian rebels to fight IS.

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“I understand that my colleagues are war weary. I’m war weary. I understand the American people are war weary,” Engel said, as quoted by The Hill. “But I think doing nothing would invite something very similar that happened to my city, New York City, on that fateful day of Sept. 11, 2001.”

“If we do nothing, ISIS (IS) will plot and plan and we’ll have many more 9/11s in the United States, in Europe, in the Middle East,” he claimed.

The House is currently debating whether or not to pass an amendment that would allow President Obama to direct the military to arm and train rebel factions in Syria in order to fight the Islamic State.

http://rt.com/usa/188316-usa-september-11-islamic-state/

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US will have ‘many more’ 9/11s if it fails to act against Islamic State – House Rep (Original Post) CJCRANE Sep 2014 OP

Didnt we just spend 10yrs in Iraq jambo101 Sep 2014 #1

911 Saddam Saddam 911 911 Saddam Saddam 911 911 Saddam Saddam 911 JHB Sep 2014 #2

Geez! The hype that ISIS is getting is unbelievable Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #3

I'm more afraid of what the CIA and friends may pull off in this country newfie11 Sep 2014 #4

I'm more afraid of where this Ebola virus may go. jambo101 Sep 2014 #5

I agree with u newfie11 Sep 2014 #10

So Engel is saying "the only thing we have to fear is...not being scared enough." KurtNYC Sep 2014 #6

The "moderate" rebels are just middlemen CJCRANE Sep 2014 #7

They have one standard formula since they stole lands from indigenous people malaise Sep 2014 #8

Demagoguery is very unattractive. Laelth Sep 2014 #9

jambo101

(797 posts)

1. Didnt we just spend 10yrs in Iraq

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:20 AM

Sep 2014

Supposedly arming and training the Iraqis to fight for their own country and presumably against our enemies?Turned out to be a total waste of lives,money and effort.
Is it Americas job to go over to this part of the world and play nurse maid to a bunch of countries who havent the cojones to fight for their own country and as an added insult countries that dont like America but will gladly take our money and military resources.
If we did succeed in wiping out ISIS there would just be another radical faction to replace them.
I say leave em to their own destiny, we'll deal with whatever is left over..

JHB

(37,161 posts)

2. 911 Saddam Saddam 911 911 Saddam Saddam 911 911 Saddam Saddam 911

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:30 AM

Sep 2014

I can name that tune in two notes.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,426 posts)

3. Geez! The hype that ISIS is getting is unbelievable

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:49 AM

Sep 2014

Looks like the Neocons and their sympathizers have finally figured out how to shake us Americans out of our collective "war weariness"

newfie11

(8,159 posts)

4. I'm more afraid of what the CIA and friends may pull off in this country

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:58 AM

Sep 2014

Then any Islamic State.
There is too much info out to fall for this shit again.

jambo101

(797 posts)

5. I'm more afraid of where this Ebola virus may go.

Reply to newfie11 (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:10 AM

Sep 2014

This or something like it has the potential to wipe out a majority of the worlds population.
Under the right circumstances it could make for a very potent weapon.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)

10. I agree with u

Reply to jambo101 (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:49 AM

Sep 2014

I read a book many many years ago with that scenario. That's a scary idea.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)

6. So Engel is saying "the only thing we have to fear is...not being scared enough."

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:21 AM

Sep 2014

Meanwhile, when has arming and training "moderates" ever worked out well?

The jihadi group surging through Iraq and Syria is using large captured US-made weapons and has access to anti-tank rockets supplied by Saudi Arabia to a moderate rebel group, according to a report published on Monday.

The study by the London-based Conflict Armament Research consultancy found that Islamic State (Isis) militants had access to large numbers of US weapons, which they were shifting to key battlefields.
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Of most interest was the capture of two M-79 rockets that were identical to a batch of such weapons supplied by Saudi Arabia to rebels in southern Syria in January 2013. The rockets had been sourced from a Croatian arms supplier and ferried to anti-Assad fighters who were identified as non-jihadis.

The potential for weapons provided to one group to fall into the hands of other militants fighting in Syria has often been cited by the US and others as a reason not to heavily arm groups involved in the civil war.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/08/isis-jihadis-using-arms-troop-carriers-supplied-by-us-saudi-arabia

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)

7. The "moderate" rebels are just middlemen

Reply to KurtNYC (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:35 AM

Sep 2014

in the weapons redistribution business IMO.

malaise

(269,144 posts)

8. They have one standard formula since they stole lands from indigenous people

Reply to CJCRANE (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:38 AM

Sep 2014

divide, rule, loot, plunder and get rich. Never forget that the national interest is the interest of the 1%.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)

9. Demagoguery is very unattractive.

Reply to CJCRANE (Original post)

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:42 AM

Sep 2014

IS poses no real threat to the United States at this time. IS does pose a threat to some of our allies, however, but that's a different issue.

-Laelth

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