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A great article with a salute to high school friends Ira and Michael Gessel:
http://www.psmag.com/navigation/business-economics/dont-pay-toilets-america-bathroom-restroom-free-market-90683/#.VBn7_CTEq70.facebook
The quarterly newsletter, titled the Free Toilet Paper, reported on the groups activities and included the odd anecdote about encountering pay toilets on vacations abroad. We feel that pay toilets are unjust infringements on our basic human rights elimination is an important body function that must take place, dime or no dime, Michael wrote in the first issue, which reads very much like a product of the lighthearted movement the group was at the time. The social action committee hopes to be able to present CEPTIA members with effective weapons of guerrilla warfare in the form of bumper stickers.
The logo, though, was the groups tour de force, an emblem unique to its time and CEPTIAs place in it: a fist, pulled from the New Left movement, grasping chains and rising out of a toilet bowl. Froiken came up with the idea after seeing an ad for laundry detergent in which a fist bursts out of a washing machine.
In early 1971, CEPTIA was bankrolled to the tune of $25.20, or, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator, $148.30 in 2014 dollars. They used Ira and Michaels fathers printing machines and kept costs low by staying up-to-date on postage increases.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)And I also remember slithering under a stall door to avoid paying the potty fee. Pay toilets were the norm at airports and many other public places. It was nice to have them gone.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)GAWD, I feel ... OLD!
They are quite common in Europe as well.
In the Middle East, you could usually find a free one in the lobby of a better hotel, but you still needed to bring your own buttwipe or be prepared to do some serious work with the hose, depending upon what you were there for....
If there was an attendant, a few tomans went on the tip plate, presumably for service as a door guard, or something.
RazzleCat
(732 posts)I remember in Germany having to use the loo and pulling into a restaurant, I had to buy a "coupon" to use the toilet. I purchased and used and on my way out tossed the coupon into the trash. It was not until I got in line to purchase some thing I discovered that you could redeem you coupon as part of any purchase. So not so bad, if your only going to use their water, soap and paper you pay a small fee, if however you purchase anything you can get your fee back. I am certain that if I could read or speak German that all of this information was posted, but I don't and I needed a toilet so paid the fee.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Unbelievable fixtures, stalls that went floor to ceiling and you could hold a small dance in...! Attendants at attention with fine linens upon which to wipe your washed and scented fingers! An array of accoutrements to ensure that your appearance was tip-top before exiting the facility! This one was in Zurich, and I came out of there googly-eyed. It was like something out of an MGM movie!
Of course, I was coming from a place where the toilet norm was a "bomb site" so this was real culture shock for me!
OldEurope
(1,273 posts)In Germany this sort of coupon-fee is used in restrooms of Autobahn service areas, railway stations, and airports.
Most other restaurants have free access.
from Munich Octoberfest
MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)Paying to use a goddamn toilet is inhumane.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I remember how everyone would cram a bunch of toilet paper in the locking mechanism so that it would not click shut. I remember how everyone would hold the door open for the next person, so that places with a lot of people in lines would get the first coin of the day and that was it. I remember that it cost a dime and you always kept a dime with you for either the phone or the pay toilet. Wow, a dime then would mean we would be paying about $.75 for a potty today. Wow. Ah, the good old days.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)nilram
(2,893 posts)I remember them at Woolworths, but they were on the way out when I was a teen.
Today, you just have to find the right employee and beg for a key or follow them back to be let in. Degrading, but free. But I presume the effect is the same: f you're a smelly homeless person who doesn't spend money at the establishment, you'll be shown the door.
JVS
(61,935 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)dont quote me on that.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)I was born in 1970 and I remember them so it would have to be after 1976 or so.
Boreal
(725 posts)I worked in an airport that had them.
I agree they're outrageous. Dunno if they still exist. Toilets and drinking fountains are basic human needs so can only be thought of as rights.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)And I remember our local department store had them. It cost 10¢. I hade 3 brothers and we would take turns making sure the door didn't close in order to pay again for it. That would have been 1988 I think.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)"Our end is our own elimination."
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)No using the lav until you first swipe your credit card. It's the one potential profit center the airlines haven't yet explored.
And I distinctly recall a pay toilet situation at the Rainforest Cafe at Disney World back in the mid 90s. An attendant stood at the door and collected something like 50 cents. I was incensed, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,835 posts)and was met with great outrage and opprobrium.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)in Santa Barbara is a pay toilet, so either laws have been repealed or are being ignored. That pay toilet is clearly aimed at keeping the local homeless popuation out. It 's cruel.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I wish we had them here.
Aristus
(66,452 posts)Permanently staffed, (I hope with a well-paid attendant), scrupulously clean, always functional and always open. An amazing experience for someone used to "Restroom for customers ONLY!" America...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)One of my pet hates is those people who silently watch you urinating and then judge you because you happen not to have a dollar bill.
Aristus
(66,452 posts)(in Germany, they are the Offentlisches WC) are paid a salary from public funds. No tipping. Just like most of the rest of Europe.
I used a WC a couple of times. The attendant was a woman. None of the men using the facility cared. She was doing her job. She went back and forth in the place, keeping it clean, filling the towel dispenser, etc. Guys came it, did their thing, and left. No problem. It was like the most natural thing in the world.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Boreal
(725 posts)Initech
(100,100 posts)ahahaha, I was never a fan of S.P., but that's hilarious.
DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)...In America.
Also known as The Birch John Society.
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WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bobGandolf
(871 posts)God forbid you be in the city, and need a bathroom quickly. They are far, and few between. It amazes me how few stores have a bathroom you can use now, and the ones that do you are locked, and you need to find the key.