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Why does a LA school need a MRAP? (Original Post) Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 OP
Because the littler nippers might build an IED in shop and chemistry class. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #1
Simple answer ... they don't etherealtruth Sep 2014 #2
Like so many other things... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #3
The only possible reason might be to protect against an armed force MineralMan Sep 2014 #4
Most armoured vehicles Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #7
Yes, there are domestic IED makers. MineralMan Sep 2014 #8
The better question is hootinholler Sep 2014 #5
That one's easy to answer: EX500rider Sep 2014 #6

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
4. The only possible reason might be to protect against an armed force
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

attempting to gain control of a school from outside. In that situation, an MRAP might be a useful tool, since it would allow police personnel to enter the area with a good degree of safety. Domestic terrorism and that sort of thing. That's almost certainly the justification used for acquiring such armored personnel carriers.

Is such an incident likely? No. Is such a situation possible? Yes. Even a couple of people armed with semi-auto weapons and a good, protected position would be capable of a serious threat to a school. An MRAP would make their protected position worthless in most cases.

MRAPs are pretty much impervious to small arms fire, and can even protect personnel from some IEDs. I can imagine a situation where one being available might save the day and a lot of lives, but I think such a situation is highly unlikely.

I imagine that they're not thinking about using it against students and faculty. That would make no sense at all.

The thing is that they're available from the federal government as surplus equipment. Police forces have them and very large school districts have their own police forces these days.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
7. Most armoured vehicles
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:38 AM
Sep 2014

are protected against small to medium calibre weapons. MRAPs are for IEDs. Are they saying there are IED makers in LA?

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
8. Yes, there are domestic IED makers.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:09 AM
Sep 2014

Pipe bombs, pressure cooker bombs, propane tank bombs. You hear about them fairly frequently, actually, if you follow the news very much.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
5. The better question is
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:04 PM
Sep 2014

Why does the military have an MRAP they can give away willy-nilly to any remotely connected government body?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
6. That one's easy to answer:
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:11 PM
Sep 2014
In the last decade the U.S. military (mainly the army and marines) bought some 20,000 MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicles. Once American troops were out of Iraq many of these vehicles were found unsuitable for Afghanistan, where there are fewer roads and a special new MRAP design was found more suitable. Eventually, most of these armored trucks will be out of work. Some will go into storage, but many will be put up for sale, cheap. The trouble is, there doesn't seem to be many buyers.

At first it was thought peacekeeping operations might provide a market. Security is often a problem in disaster or disorderly areas and MRAPs were seen as a potential solution for the many NGOs and nations that have problems with security. In reality, peacekeepers rarely go into areas where there is a lot of combat. That is considered peacemaking and it is far less popular, and frequent, than peacekeeping. In other words, any crises zone that needs MRAPs is an area peacekeepers and aid groups will tend to stay away from.

Another downside of MRAPs is that they are expensive (over $10,000 a year) to operate. This is another disincentive for those who participate in peacekeeping operations. While MRAPs are ideal for areas where bandits or terrorists are a threat (via mines and roadside bombs), such places are in need of combat forces, ready to fight, not peacekeepers or relief workers.

American combat troops like MRAPs as long as they are fighting a foe that does not require U.S. combat vehicles to travel cross country a lot. MRAPs do roads but their high center of gravity makes them too unwieldy for off-road operations


https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/MRAPs-Left-To-Rot-4-1-2012.asp
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