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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Rude Pundit - Note to Iraq War Supporters: Eat Shit and Then We Can Talk About ISIS
You know, every now and then, the Rude Pundit thinks, "Hmm. There's a chance these Islamic State goatfuckers are genuinely worth attacking." He knows, he knows, Christ, he knows that we are being played by our leaders. We always are, to an extent. But if the Axis of Oil (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan) is sufficiently spooked to actually stop abusing women and outsiders for a few minutes to "join" with the United States to attack ISIS and this other group - Khorasan? The fuck? - then maybe this is real.
That's every now and then because it's easy to fall into the propaganda rabbit hole. It takes a fuck of a lot of effort to keep your skepticism when everything around you screams, "Armageddon, motherfucker, armageddon all over your face." It's especially hard to think about jumping on the "Bomb the hell out of them" train when so many of the people who are telling us to hurry up before the caboose passes are the same mud-coated piglets who lied to us or were conduits for the lies that got us into the Iraq clusterfuck in the first place, which, as we know, is one of the reasons we're waist deep in the big dusty again.
(By the way, the fact that the Rude Pundit never believed for one second that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and knew that Saddam Hussein was the grenade pin of his country makes him take seriously these queasy little doubts creeping into his brain about ISIS.)
So here's what needs to happen if any of us are to believe, not just mildly suspect, that ISIS is actually worth more blood, more destruction, more fucked-up soldiers, more money.
Each Iraq "war" supporter who now believes that ISIS is a threat to the United States has to sit down at a very nicely-decorated table, like with flowers and a tablecloth and napkins folded like birds and silver silverware and crystal wine glasses, all Martha Stewarted out, like with a fuckin' centerpiece, even. And someone dressed in a Marine uniform has to come out with a covered plate, one with a shiny dome on top that reads, "Iraq War," place it before, for example, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, some gung-ho motherfuckers with a constant battle boner, and expertly whip off the dome to reveal a giant plate of shit. Then John McCain and Lindsey Graham have to eat that plate of shit, all of it. When they finish, when they can look at one of the TV cameras they are so exhibitionistically fond of, faces covered in shit smears, and say, "Okay. We've eaten our plate of Iraq War shit. Now can we talk about ISIS?" Then and only then, yes, they are allowed to speak about action against the Islamic State.
That's the way it's gotta be, across the board. You supported the Iraq "war"? You want to get all bloodthirsty about this one? Eat the plate of shit. Gobble it down, assholes. You earned each and every turd in there.
The Rude Pundit still ain't gonna give this new war the high, hard love hug right now, maybe not ever. Not when all of a sudden there's this al-Qaeda splinter, Khorasan, which makes it seem like the attack on ISIS was just an excuse to go after this super-secret supervillain society. Not when the White House estimates only 20-30 Americans might be fighting in Syria, not necessarily for ISIS. Not when this looks like the start of another endless war. Not when we were supposed to have moved beyond all of this, finally.
It's gotta be frustrating for President Obama. Here he is, one of the only politicians who doesn't have a steaming heap of shit waiting for him to spoon up. He's the clean one among the shit-eaters, knowing that if the shit-eaters didn't exist, he'd be able to say, with clear conscience, "Look, these are evil fuckers who have to be stopped." But most of the country needs to pull up to the table before this whole things will seem legitimate.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/09/note-to-iraq-war-supporters-eat-shit.html
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)What a great way of putting it. And millions of protesters around the world -- those without "a constant battle boner" -- knew it. But Saddam is dead now and Iraqis have all that freedumb and democracy. Right? And any day now we'll find those WMDs he spirited away to Syria!
Thanks for posting, meegbear.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)is insanely high. He hits the mark again here.
calimary
(81,304 posts)alterfurz
(2,474 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)That's going to be my new gaming battle cry!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)How about Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Joe Biden?
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)every night for the rest of their lives over the Iraq war vote, they aren't on the Sunday shows every single week screaming about how we need to anihilate masses of brown people on the other side of the world like the two mentioned assclowns.
RVN VET
(492 posts)But it was Bush and company -- including the likes of Graham and McCain -- who pushed the troops through.
Clinton and Kerry were enablers, but less culpable than McCain and Graham. Oh, their support of Bush was contemptible and sticks in my craw to this day. But I'm not going to put their cowardice (that's what it was) on a par with the barbarous blood thirst of Cheney and his crew, including Bush, Graham, and McCain. They were enablers; Cheney et al were the perps.
jonjensen
(168 posts)vietnam war draft dodging chicken hawk cowards should be sent over their to do the fighting with something other then their mouths which is full of crap anyway.
angel823
(409 posts)The Rude Pundit NAILS IT!
Angel in Texas
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)FlatStanley
(327 posts)TygrBright
(20,760 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)FlatStanley
(327 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)At least any time in the immediate future.
Maybe if we blow up their tanks and artillery they'll think twice about trying to continue on with small arms.
Maybe if we blow enough of their command and control headquarters to bits, the leaderless group that's left won't quite know how to proceed.
Maybe if a few training centers are destroyed, there won't be the free flow of new Islamists into the ranks to keep feeding their war frenzy.
Maybe we can slow them down for a while.
That's about the best that can be done, though.
And maybe attrition will get the rest.
I opposed the Iraq war, mostly because ISIL was a very easily foreseen consequence of that clusterfuck when we could have done what we always did in the past with tin pot dictators who turned on us. Which is to say, whisper in some general's ear about how HE culd ahve the power and hold the cards to reign supreme in that country with just a little push from us, some money here, some well placed assets there, and once again the tin pot dictator of the country is at least somewhat receptive to us maintaining the status quo for another generation or two.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)No expert, general or administration official has suggested that an air campaign will be enough. They all recognize that troops will be needed if the objective is actually to destroy IS.
Likewise no one, anywhere has said this would be short, quick or easy. They speak in terms if three years. It is silly to think otherwise. Which is why you should oppose it. You hopes an dreams for this war do not match reality. The reality as told by the people you support.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Yes, you're certainly going to see THAT in this.
Perhaps if McCain and Graham had a child in this endless prediction of a horse race to hell, then YES
they'd eat that shit right up before asking for seconds?
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)and oil will pay for the war. It won't cost us a cent.