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babylonsister

(171,094 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:11 PM Sep 2014

Chuck Todd Is Doing Worse Than David Gregory As Meet The Press Continues To Nosedive

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/25/chuck-todd-worse-david-gregory-meet-press-continues-nosedive.html

Chuck Todd Is Doing Worse Than David Gregory As Meet The Press Continues To Nosedive
By: Jason Easley
Thursday, September, 25th, 2014, 4:01 pm


It may seem hard to believe but minus the first week where he had an interview with President Obama, Chuck Todd’s ratings on Meet The Press are worse than David Gregory’s.

The ratings for week three of the Chuck Todd Meet The Press experiment are in, and they are not good. For the entire television season Meet The Press averaged 2.72 million viewers, but Chuck Todd’s third week on saw 2.416 million viewers watch. On Todd’s second week, the show had 2.589 million viewers. Things are getting worse with each passing week for Meet The Press.

The general problem is that Chuck Todd isn’t very different from David Gregory. Todd did win the ratings race in his debut week, but that was because he had an exclusive interview with President Obama. In the following weeks, it has been a return to overall dullness for Meet The Press. The Sunday shows have been obsessed with Obama and ISIS for more than a month to the point where the shows have turned into weekly non-paid commercials for the Republican position of putting boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria.

NBC was right to Gregory, because Disinterested David was never right for the show. Gregory was content with repeating Republican talking points and not challenging guests. Chuck Todd loves politics, but the changes that have been made to Meet The Press so far seem gimmicky and desperate. The unveiling of a weekly poll from Republican tilting pollster Marist feels like a desperate attempt to make news instead of reporting it.

All of the people who suggested that replacing Gregory with Todd would have no impact are right so far. Meet The Press needed a real shakeup, not a new face from the same stable. It has been a long time since Meet The Press was appointment viewing. Chuck Todd hasn’t made things better. In fact, he might be making them worse.
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Chuck Todd Is Doing Worse Than David Gregory As Meet The Press Continues To Nosedive (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2014 OP
It's not on FOX where it belongs. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #1
Not a fan of Gregory liberalmike27 Sep 2014 #31
Yeah, the geniuses at nbc news blamed it on Gregory "leaning too left wing".. like we're all stupid Cha Sep 2014 #55
NBC DID blame Gregory for leaning too far left? You're kidding, or I really missed that. maddiemom Sep 2014 #108
No, sadly.. I kid you not. Cha Sep 2014 #112
I don't think a "left wing host" changes the trajectory. You won't get Repukes to agree to sit down Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #81
Sure they'll sit down, regardless - with a declining market share, Repukes aren't closeupready Sep 2014 #88
Both Stewart and Colbert: far more incisive interviewers than any of the usual maddiemom Sep 2014 #109
Sorry, FOX is there... maddiemom Sep 2014 #110
Who cares? You can get all the republi-CON spew you want at the other network down the street. calimary Sep 2014 #134
If ratings are what they care about, any number of things may work. You're speaking to people.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #139
Did Murdoch buy NBC? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Sep 2014 #73
I watch just a couple of seconds and saw that his panel were right wing hacks Gothmog Sep 2014 #2
Typical formula has been to put a bunch of right wingers on the panel,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #19
I kind of like him on MTP - it keeps him off MSNBC in the mornings. Vinca Sep 2014 #3
SNAP! maddiemom Sep 2014 #111
Well, there is that. calimary Sep 2014 #136
... Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #4
:) the Reasons for Chucky Todd not being very popular keep piling up.. Cha Sep 2014 #56
What a piece of fiction! JHB Sep 2014 #5
Well duh! al_liberal Sep 2014 #6
damn you beat me to it CatWoman Sep 2014 #13
Not true! Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #75
they may have to go to Joe Scarborough Enrique Sep 2014 #7
Why don't they just rename the show.. virgdem Sep 2014 #8
I now call it Meet the Shills myself on point Sep 2014 #64
UpChuck DRoseDARs Sep 2014 #85
"Elephant Fluffing" is a bit more direct . . . hatrack Sep 2014 #152
Hard to believe, 2.416 million people can't find a hammer with which to hit their own thumb. . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #9
Wow! I didn't see THAT one coming... catbyte Sep 2014 #10
todd is a fool and i feel like a fool if i watch even a second of his repug ass kissing show samsingh Sep 2014 #11
It's not Chuck's fault Obama never mentioned Syria. . B Calm Sep 2014 #12
Rofl.. It's not Obama's fault Chucky wasn't listening. :) Cha Sep 2014 #57
It was so ridiculous brush Sep 2014 #66
I like how they have a couple panelists waiting way off in the background, almost out of sight. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #14
Yeah, the way where Chuckie walks around the set customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #37
Not a surprise to most on this board. He is the worst. Pisces Sep 2014 #15
What's that about the definition of insanity? lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #16
Yeah, they musta thought that big Gotcha of Chucky Todd's on Obama not mentioning Cha Sep 2014 #58
Yep, we all told you so.... Stellar Sep 2014 #17
+ maddiemom Sep 2014 #113
Stephanie Miller going on and doing an hour of sound effects and fart jokes would do better. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #18
LOL- you got that right Iliyah Sep 2014 #27
There is no press to meet malaise Sep 2014 #20
LOL. Very true. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #24
LOL, good point. closeupready Sep 2014 #89
I will not watch this crap LittleGirl Sep 2014 #21
Ah, Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #22
Network suits did not listen. We said all this in the beginning B 4 the show started. oldandhappy Sep 2014 #23
I don't think it so much the format as the participants and the desire to be rw propaganda on point Sep 2014 #67
Unsurprising. He's awful, awful, AWFUL. nt MADem Sep 2014 #25
Both of them are a bunch of corporate whores! gopiscrap Sep 2014 #26
Todd compare America to Starbucks and Click a Flick Iliyah Sep 2014 #28
Oh yeah.. I read that the other day.. it's getting harder and harder to keep up with Chucky's Cha Sep 2014 #59
It's time to bring in the big guns, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #29
That little video is... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #43
I don't think mitts elevator is going all the way up, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #65
Luke Russert has already been named sprts Sep 2014 #72
Please STOP that video. It makes me crazy and it may be one of the most normal maddiemom Sep 2014 #114
NBC didn't need something new. They needed something old. DFW Sep 2014 #30
Yes I agree Va Lefty Sep 2014 #33
They need something else Califa Sep 2014 #74
And Chris Wallace is better than Todd and Gregory Renew Deal Sep 2014 #94
YES! I keep posting the same thing, for what it's worth. maddiemom Sep 2014 #116
Definitely! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #126
I'd rather watch QVC George II Sep 2014 #32
More compelling discourse. Octafish Sep 2014 #34
They blew it by not bringing in Jansing. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2014 #35
Who would expect anything else? Watch the commercials and you'll know exactly who they're appeasing. Marr Sep 2014 #36
Good. W_HAMILTON Sep 2014 #38
I just noticed Calista241 Sep 2014 #39
I'm SURE that's considered "a bold change" by those corporate idiots.... . .n/t annabanana Sep 2014 #40
OMGS! "standing up.." what will they think of next?! lol Cha Sep 2014 #60
The only thing that can save MTP, is a REAL newsperson SoCalDem Sep 2014 #41
But how can we survive Sunday mornings without John McCain? (especially since maddiemom Sep 2014 #115
Only way to fix it is to give it to Rachel. Egnever Sep 2014 #42
That would get me to watch. Fearless Sep 2014 #127
If people want to watch a smug partisan talking head they have cable news for that. herding cats Sep 2014 #44
you are right samsingh Sep 2014 #76
How sad pscot Sep 2014 #45
RIP G_j Sep 2014 #46
I expect those idiots to Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #47
Who watches Military Trumps People, I mean, really. nt valerief Sep 2014 #48
if people wanted to watch fux, they have fux gnewz. pansypoo53219 Sep 2014 #49
I never watched Leno's show after he came back because his first guest was Rush. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #50
Some spokesperson or other for MTP was asked, during the Clinton years, administration, maddiemom Sep 2014 #129
There are too many of these shows JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #51
Chuck should talk to an empty chair, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #52
Bring back Keith Olbermann quarbis Sep 2014 #53
YES! 1000+. That would be a tough honest show worth watching on point Sep 2014 #68
With no guests Renew Deal Sep 2014 #95
NBC doesn't get it The Wizard Sep 2014 #54
Unless NBC hires Cenk, Olbermann or Donahue as a host, I will never voluntarily watch MTP again.. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #61
NBC will give us 3 years to change our attitude about Chuck rurallib Sep 2014 #62
people don't want right-wing bullshit shoved down their throats spanone Sep 2014 #63
Liberal wanted apply within turbinetree Sep 2014 #69
It's not about Todd, it's that their narrative is extreme right wing. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #70
Mr. "you didn't mention Syria" chuckie asiliveandbreathe Sep 2014 #71
Well, did he think people were going to shrug this off? rocktivity Sep 2014 #77
Chuck is the funeral home director. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #78
It beats the hell out of me, the bitching about MTP, it is like going to the doctor with a hammer Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #79
So, you pose yourself as happy product of repeatedly hitting your own head with a hammer? nt delrem Sep 2014 #99
Don't think I said hitting myself, I think I said your head. That would not be Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #102
So, you *enjoy* it, and *enjoy* the results. delrem Sep 2014 #103
bwahahahahahahahahaha :) TeamPooka Sep 2014 #80
After UpChuck Toddler they'll move on to Morning Blow FlatStanley Sep 2014 #82
Gregory & Todd as dual hosts would be the bomb. nt NCjack Sep 2014 #83
That would be an incredibly bold and daring new approach, no doubt! nt stillwaiting Sep 2014 #84
They could call it the "Dumb and Dumber" show. lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #87
conservatives won't come on if asked tough questions jonjensen Sep 2014 #86
Mike would be sooooo...rich!! orbitalman Sep 2014 #117
The messenger does not matter . The show should be called " meet the republicans " . The show is the geretogo Sep 2014 #90
Well he's no Mike Todd libodem Sep 2014 #91
NBC cannot solve this problem given their current operating philosophy GitRDun Sep 2014 #92
They should go to the old model Renew Deal Sep 2014 #93
That requires finding three independent journalists in the pay of the MSM. nt delrem Sep 2014 #101
first show Chuck Todd interviewing Obama demigoddess Sep 2014 #96
How about howard stern? jonjensen Sep 2014 #97
In this entire thread... IkeRepublican Sep 2014 #98
What's worse to step in: dog shit or cat shit? delrem Sep 2014 #100
It was refreshing to hear from Bernie Sanders bluedeer71 Sep 2014 #104
I Watched David Gregory Akbar Sep 2014 #105
Why is anyone surprised that Chuck Todd is bombing? maddiemom Sep 2014 #106
They should add Tucker Carlson to co-host. L0oniX Sep 2014 #122
Completely unwatchable n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #107
of course Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #118
Only Tweety or Maddow can turn that show around. craigmatic Sep 2014 #119
They'll have to change the name of the show to "Meet Your Maker" C Moon Sep 2014 #120
Meet the Pest. L0oniX Sep 2014 #121
Jerry Springer would be the perfect host, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #123
I think that the show itself, concept and all, is past its time... elzenmahn Sep 2014 #124
The show would be great if they returned to the ORIGINAL concept. MADem Sep 2014 #125
Lol, they should have Jon Lovitz replace him. Ampersand Unicode Sep 2014 #143
Ha ha ha! MADem Sep 2014 #144
Andrea Mitchell belongs there... NOT Chuck Todd whatacountry09 Sep 2014 #128
No no no no no no tavernier Sep 2014 #132
What tavernier said... freebrew Sep 2014 #142
Maybe he shouldn't have screwed up his opportunity with the President. I didn't care about him.... marble falls Sep 2014 #130
I didn't think it was possible NastyRiffraff Sep 2014 #131
NBC hasn't realized that the majority of their audience were those who DID NOT watch FOX. Fla Dem Sep 2014 #133
Hey, is anybody sharing their concerns with the NBC brass? calimary Sep 2014 #135
I'm kicking this post again, even though it's an old one. calimary Oct 2014 #153
NBC – NoBodyCares. calimary Sep 2014 #137
Prediction DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #138
Never was a fan of this tripe anyway Harry Monroe Sep 2014 #140
they've yet to find a Tim Russert :( PatrynXX Sep 2014 #141
A lot of us couldn't stand Russert -- Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #146
When are the corporate oligarchs going to get it ? The American people want real meat and potatoes geretogo Sep 2014 #145
Put Maddow in that Seat and watch the ratings soar n/t Yavin4 Sep 2014 #147
Middle 'Murica might be prejudiced against Rachel Ampersand Unicode Sep 2014 #149
2.72 million viewers is the high point Yavin4 Sep 2014 #150
Cut out the middleman- put McCain in front of a mirror each week n/t n2doc Sep 2014 #148
I'd rather watch paint dry than either Todd or Gregory do/say anything. IrishAyes Sep 2014 #151

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
31. Not a fan of Gregory
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:59 PM
Sep 2014

But he kind of got screwed.

He basically did the right-wing show the network wanted. He brought on mostly right-wing guests, he didn't challenge them, and in truth, contrary to the memory of the dead Tim Russert, he did not either. So they diagnose it as Gregory as the problem, and replaced him with another guy, who just did the same thing, the show booked the same right-wing guests. They viewed all the issues from the right-wing perspective and offered few guests, usually muted, from the center, and none from the left.

If they want to attract new people, they should choose to do a show with a left-wing host, and have at least half the guests at "least" be Democrats, if not actual liberals.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
55. Yeah, the geniuses at nbc news blamed it on Gregory "leaning too left wing".. like we're all stupid
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:33 AM
Sep 2014

out here. Perhaps thinking that will get chucky todd even more rwingers?

So what happened!?

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
108. NBC DID blame Gregory for leaning too far left? You're kidding, or I really missed that.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:56 PM
Sep 2014

The usual conservatives, a few supposed "middle of the road" guests, and, as usual, a complete lack of any real liberals. This was "left leaning?" You ARE kidding, right?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,241 posts)
81. I don't think a "left wing host" changes the trajectory. You won't get Repukes to agree to sit down
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:34 PM
Sep 2014

with a host like that, and it will in effect, become the same fare we already get from Rev. Al, Rachel, etc. If the show wants to appeal to a broader audience, with a wide range of voices, they need to find a host who isn't seen by the left or the right as ideological. I could see a Jon Stewart or Colbert type pulling it off, if it's just ratings they're after, but no one who currently works for MSNBC is going to turn the show around.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
88. Sure they'll sit down, regardless - with a declining market share, Repukes aren't
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:58 PM
Sep 2014

framing things like they used to. During the Bush years, yes, they had the luxury of doing that, but political momentum is swinging OUR way now. Just my $0.02.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
109. Both Stewart and Colbert: far more incisive interviewers than any of the usual
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:05 PM
Sep 2014

gang of "journalists" considered main stream enough for MTP and like Sunday shows ( except maybe Moyers, who's usually "gentle&quot The major networks need to either "shape up" or get out of the game. Increasingly younger audiences and old liberals like myself will not be tuning in much longer. FOX is their for all the aging conservatives.

calimary

(81,513 posts)
134. Who cares? You can get all the republi-CON spew you want at the other network down the street.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:06 AM
Sep 2014

WHY NOT make it more leftward-leaning? I think a "left wing host" might do EXACTLY that: change the trajectory. And MSNBC with its lineup during the week would be the perfect place to experiment along those lines.

It's not as though we've had some long parade of decidedly left-leaning partisans hosting "Meet the Press" up til now, have we? I'd give Rachel Maddow a shot at it, if it were my decision to make. Besides, a female host is a big change, in and of itself.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,241 posts)
139. If ratings are what they care about, any number of things may work. You're speaking to people....
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:19 AM
Sep 2014

who would watch Rachel anyhow, but if it's audience growth they're after, I don't see any of their current hosts doing that. Since I don't watch any of the Sunday news shows with any regularity, I could be wrong. Too much of either ideology can be predictable & boring after awhile.

Gothmog

(145,619 posts)
2. I watch just a couple of seconds and saw that his panel were right wing hacks
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:13 PM
Sep 2014

The panel that he on the show was filled with right wing nut cases and hacks last week. I saw no reason to waste any time watching MTP to hear these idiots

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. Typical formula has been to put a bunch of right wingers on the panel,...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:01 PM
Sep 2014

....then invite a member of the Obama Administration on a monitor to ask a bunch of RW talking points then end their interview and turn to the panel to call everything they just said either wrong or a lie.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
56. :) the Reasons for Chucky Todd not being very popular keep piling up..
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:33 AM
Sep 2014
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JHB

(37,162 posts)
5. What a piece of fiction!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:22 PM
Sep 2014

"It may seem hard to believe..."

Fabulism! Balderdash! Tommyrot!

It's not hard to believe at all.

virgdem

(2,127 posts)
8. Why don't they just rename the show..
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:27 PM
Sep 2014

"Mouthpieces for the Republican Party" and be done with it. No one watches-its format and hosts are dull as dishwater and not informative.

Journeyman

(15,041 posts)
9. Hard to believe, 2.416 million people can't find a hammer with which to hit their own thumb. . .
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:27 PM
Sep 2014

so they subject themselves to purely mindless pain instead as they try to make sense of totally worthless television programming.

brush

(53,889 posts)
66. It was so ridiculous
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:23 AM
Sep 2014

That "not mentioning Syria" bit was such a scripted 'gotcha', and Todd so lame and not up to the task, that he couldn't even think of a way to switch gears instead of going along with the script, even though the president had mentioned Syria 4 times already.

And they bought this clown on to replace the other one — NO IMPROVEMENT.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
14. I like how they have a couple panelists waiting way off in the background, almost out of sight.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:21 PM
Sep 2014

Like they were only invited for the sweet table.
The whole show seems like a hodgepodge of desperate ideas.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
37. Yeah, the way where Chuckie walks around the set
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:35 PM
Sep 2014

with the camera following him leapfrogging the tables just looks so lame.

MTP used to have some greatness in it's classic days, now it's just a piece of crap. But, I will admit, on Sunday, I will switch to it before This Week starts running some sob story at the end that doesn't involve real news or a discussion of it.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
58. Yeah, they musta thought that big Gotcha of Chucky Todd's on Obama not mentioning
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:39 AM
Sep 2014

Syria would really reel them in Sunday after Sunday.. Oh Wait a sec.. the opposite. Rofl

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
17. Yep, we all told you so....
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:30 PM
Sep 2014

They already have FOX news, why have more FOX news programs on TV, week after week all saying the same damned thing. Especially since this country knows that nobody in congress have never tried to help the President.

Now, there's a story....talk about why congress remains on vacation practically all year long, and getting paid. I'm sure the country would be interested, instead of looking for new ways to blame President Obama.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
18. Stephanie Miller going on and doing an hour of sound effects and fart jokes would do better.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:34 PM
Sep 2014

Hell, she might end up number one in the time slot!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
27. LOL- you got that right
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:54 PM
Sep 2014

I mean all I need to do is come here on the DU and see that same talking point that a few constantly spew on the board.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
21. I will not watch this crap
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:09 PM
Sep 2014

It's the same thing over and over and I like to have quiet sunday mornings listening to music instead. There's only so much politics I can stomach every day and DU is my home page. That's more than enough. Life is too short to waste all of your time reading politics and listening to talking heads blather on.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
23. Network suits did not listen. We said all this in the beginning B 4 the show started.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:34 PM
Sep 2014

Needs a complete new approach. The traditional is not working.

on point

(2,506 posts)
67. I don't think it so much the format as the participants and the desire to be rw propaganda
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:04 AM
Sep 2014

They could totally maintain traditional format of leaders being grilled by an intelligent panel balanced with left and right (no more rw loonies though).

The current format of rw and then rw loonies repeating rw propaganda is a sure looser.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
59. Oh yeah.. I read that the other day.. it's getting harder and harder to keep up with Chucky's
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:42 AM
Sep 2014

guffaws. Who's his handler?

3catwoman3

(24,054 posts)
43. That little video is...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:55 PM
Sep 2014

...why there are so many stupid warning labels on products warning people not to do stupid stuff. Thank whomever/whatever that Romney was not elected.

 

sprts

(29 posts)
72. Luke Russert has already been named
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:00 PM
Sep 2014

as a weekly contributor on the show, It will definitely get worse now.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
114. Please STOP that video. It makes me crazy and it may be one of the most normal
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:33 PM
Sep 2014

things that Mittens has ever done for himself. Now that he may campaigning again, it's just too much.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
30. NBC didn't need something new. They needed something old.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:59 PM
Sep 2014

They needed to bring back the original format, where the invited guest met REAL journalists, and several at once, not the same partisan hack week after week.

Instead, they just replaced one Republican hack with another, and can't understand why the results are the same.

Who wants to watch Fox Lite when all you have to do is switch channels to the real thing?

Califa

(27 posts)
74. They need something else
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

that is old, like Phil Donahue. Not too many of the youngin's know who he is and certainly would not suck up to the right wing.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
36. Who would expect anything else? Watch the commercials and you'll know exactly who they're appeasing.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sep 2014

Who cares what happens to some hack show on some corporate network. They might as well be doing little comedy skits specifically for the Koch brothers.

There are other places to actual news and analysis that isn't just "the world according to GE".

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
39. I just noticed
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:55 PM
Sep 2014

that everyone in Chuck Todd's MTP is standing up when they pontificate on whatever they're talking about, while most of the guests sat down when Gregory was in charge.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
41. The only thing that can save MTP, is a REAL newsperson
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:35 PM
Sep 2014

who invites liberal guests who tell the truth..let the righties go hang out at Fox (where they belong).. We are well past the time where we need "debate" on issues. There is truth and there are lies..

More and more people are tired of seeing the same old "debate" week after week with the usual people on.. We need a Sunday show that focuses on REAL EXPERTS who will tell us the hard truth we need to know..

These people exist, but they have been pretty much blackballed or are triple-teamed when one of the does manage to slip past the corporate filters.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
115. But how can we survive Sunday mornings without John McCain? (especially since
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:37 PM
Sep 2014

his bitter attitude is now truly out there, no holds barred).

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
42. Only way to fix it is to give it to Rachel.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:48 PM
Sep 2014

Then let her run it.

Don't know if she would take it but that is their only chance IMHO.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
44. If people want to watch a smug partisan talking head they have cable news for that.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:59 PM
Sep 2014

Where they can switch to it and get their fill 7 days a week at their leisure. Why would they wait until Sunday for this one show? Honestly, it's missing a desired market. How many people do you know who are into what they sell on MTP who don't have access to cable "news" channels already? They need something nonpartisan that skewers politicians on real issues. Not the meme du jour already beaten to death by cable. Investigate, invite politicians and ask real, not pre-approved questions, depending on what's really taking place in American politics. I'd watch a program like that. As it is now it's just another boring chapter in the book of partisan political TV. Which has been stuck in a continuous summer rerun cycle for years and years.

Rewrite the formula and find someone who isn't a hack to moderate. It could work. As it sits now it's doomed to fail, and fail it will.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
50. I never watched Leno's show after he came back because his first guest was Rush.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:19 AM
Sep 2014

Not that I ever watched Leno's show on a regular basis anyway, but after he had Rush Limbaugh on his very first show after he came back, it only solidified my suspicion that Leno is a conservative Republican at heart.

I don't care for Republicans on tv, pretending to be "fair and balanced".
Billo the Klown does that act on Faux Snooze already, and his show was only good for a few laughs for just the first few years.

Many years ago Keith Olbermann pointed out repeatedly what an assklown Billo was, and yet, there he is, still on tv, pretending just like he always used to . . . that he is somehow important in today's society.

Chuck Toad has bent over backwards to appease the Republicans by having more of them on his program than Democrats.
The same formula that David Gregory used.

Yet, the President is a Democrat.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out what NBC is all about.

What I'd like to see on November 9th is McCain going on Meet the Press, right after the mid-term elections are over, and have him on that program for a 30-minute exclusive conversation with Chuck Toad.

Just so he could explain in detail -- while they delve into excruciating detail of the final voting results of several districts in several states, using many different maps, charts, and diagrams -- to explain exactly why the Republicans lost so many seats in the House of Representatives at the polls on the previous Tuesday that they will no longer control the next session of Congress.

And have McCain also explain exactly why the Republican party failed to become the majority party in the Senate.

That's what I'd like to see.

Chuck Toad is going to kill the franchise, the same way Leno killed The Tonight Show.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
129. Some spokesperson or other for MTP was asked, during the Clinton years, administration,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:38 AM
Sep 2014

why most of their guests were Republicans. The reply was that, since the Democrats were in power, it provided more balance (but didn't deny it). Then, of course, Dubya was in office, and still there were more right wing guests. Back around to Obama and, guess what...?

JustAnotherGen

(31,907 posts)
51. There are too many of these shows
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:29 AM
Sep 2014

Why would I watch that on a Sunday Morning - when Melissa has better guests and fosters an actual conversation? I just think MTP has run its course.New host or not - there is a hunger for an actual conversation in America.

You aren't going to get that from that show anymore than you will O'Reilly.

Someone tipped me off that Erik Prince was going to be on O'Reilly earlier this week so I flipped over. I wanted to hear what he had to say - doesn't mean I have to agree with him . . . Just wanted his perspective. For the six minutes he was on - I think he got to speak for a minute and a half.

Again - no conversation. You have the founder of Blackwater and current chief of Frontier Services Group whose parents funded the expansion of the religious Right in this country on Fox effing news and you won't let the man speak?

I have no taste for "news making news folks" anymore - and the ratings of MTP show I'm not the only one.

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
54. NBC doesn't get it
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:26 AM
Sep 2014

People who want to watch a GOP attack ad watch Pox News. They're a cult and believe everyone but Pox is lying to them. Perhaps they forgot what happened to MSNBC ratings when Keith Olbermann started the push back against the Bush cartel. Normal people need a place to get information and will flock to it when it appears.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
61. Unless NBC hires Cenk, Olbermann or Donahue as a host, I will never voluntarily watch MTP again..
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:16 AM
Sep 2014

I am boycotting all TV and radio programs that display a clear right wing bias.

MTP, NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, CNBC, 60 Minutes and NPR are now officially dead to me.

I urge you to join me in this boycott.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
69. Liberal wanted apply within
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:31 AM
Sep 2014

The president in charge of programming at NBC is a former right wing hack from Fix News, problem solved fire the person.
This oligarch owned and operated by Comcast has how many Liberals in its employ, I think there is eight total, and not one is on a Prime Time like Meet The Press----why?
CBS Face the nation is the Lindsey Graham/John McCain family show of rant and ABC and CNN once use to be credible but are now George Will and Cokey Roberts fun filled facts of what, and Candy Crowley let me see if I can get more Wolf Blitzer stuff.
The public is in need of a transparent journalistic facts not talking points, we are not stupid---I hope.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
71. Mr. "you didn't mention Syria" chuckie
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:43 AM
Sep 2014

IMHO has no curiosity - is unable to think on his feet - and I thought the Prez was masterful in exposing chuckies lack of intelligence..me thinks the Prez has wanted to do that for a long time...chuckies opinions have NO merit...fantasy based where fact is an afterthought if any at all! - Okay - I'm done...

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
77. Well, did he think people were going to shrug this off?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.rocktivity.com/video/lettermanChuckTodd.webm

He actually makes the argument that Russert's kid is better qualified without really trying!


rocktivity

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
78. Chuck is the funeral home director.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014

Gregory drove the deceased to the funeral home from the hospital.

Meet the press has been dead for quite a while.

Still waiting to see officiates the burial.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
79. It beats the hell out of me, the bitching about MTP, it is like going to the doctor with a hammer
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:18 PM
Sep 2014

and telling the doctor your head hurts after hitting yourself on the head with the hammer. I have been a MTP viewer for years, plan to continue, if I did not like the program I just would skip it.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
102. Don't think I said hitting myself, I think I said your head. That would not be
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:35 PM
Sep 2014

Myself, let's see, now just who would be, got it, it would be you.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
103. So, you *enjoy* it, and *enjoy* the results.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 08:50 PM
Sep 2014

Some might call that self-destructive.

Anyway, you can go back to watching Chuck, while you reminisce about Dave.

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
82. After UpChuck Toddler they'll move on to Morning Blow
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:34 PM
Sep 2014

And ultimately settle upon the true heir to the throne, Puke Russert

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
87. They could call it the "Dumb and Dumber" show.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 03:58 PM
Sep 2014



First problem would be deciding which one would get to wear the "I'm With Stupid" T-shirt.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
90. The messenger does not matter . The show should be called " meet the republicans " . The show is the
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 04:17 PM
Sep 2014

same mind pablum that is on 98% of our corporate radio and TV stations and adding a little
sugar to the pablum is not going to make it edible .

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
92. NBC cannot solve this problem given their current operating philosophy
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:35 PM
Sep 2014

Their basis of news operations is focusing on "the get" and controversy or sensationalism. You need Republicans for that.

Republicans won't come on if they are going to be challenged. There is a reason they won't go on Rachel.

This being the case, they have no one in their stable with a personality that cannot be matched by the other networks Sunday shows.

So it's goodbye MTP unless and until NBC decides actual reporting is better than the slop they currently shovel.

Renew Deal

(81,877 posts)
93. They should go to the old model
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 05:50 PM
Sep 2014

Get 3 real reporters in there to do the interviews. No crossfire style. 3 independent journalists.

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
96. first show Chuck Todd interviewing Obama
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:02 PM
Sep 2014

was one republican talking point after another. It was almost as if Obama were not there. I've refused to watch him from that moment on.

 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
97. How about howard stern?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:31 PM
Sep 2014

Howard Stern would be much better then the doofus they have on now or talk show host mike malloy.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
100. What's worse to step in: dog shit or cat shit?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 07:56 PM
Sep 2014

That's the question of the hour, for those who're determined to step in shit.

bluedeer71

(15 posts)
104. It was refreshing to hear from Bernie Sanders
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 09:12 PM
Sep 2014

First, let me say that I have not read all the replies to this story, so mea culpa if I am repeating someone else's comments, or if I have missed the intended point. As for me, I thought it was refreshing to see Chuck Todd interview Bernie Sanders. I had completely stopped watching Meet The Press because it had strictly become a soapbox for the right wing (in my opinion). I loved it when Bernie Sanders had a chance to present a differing point of view. I would think that a vast majority of viewers of Meet The Press have come to expect to hear only ultra conservative positions that have historically been espoused and defended on this program, so there were probably an inordinate number of 911 calls across the country when Bernie Sanders was on the program and did not toe the ultra conservative line. I'm sure there have been an overwhelming number of complaints to NBC because of this, so let's see if NBC has the balls to allow a different point of view to be aired, or will they tell Chuck Todd to reel it in and get things "back to normal" on Meet The Press.

Akbar

(307 posts)
105. I Watched David Gregory
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:36 PM
Sep 2014

I watched David Gregory. I winced at David Gregory. And you, sir, are no David Gregory.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
106. Why is anyone surprised that Chuck Todd is bombing?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:48 PM
Sep 2014

MTP needs a real shakeup: a fair and well informed liberal such as Maddow; a sane and balanced liberal/conservative duo; or a panel of three or four different journalists interviewing the guests, like MTP had way back in the early days. Meet the Press should not be just ONE annoying "journalist" inter-viewing the guests.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
122. They should add Tucker Carlson to co-host.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Sep 2014
If your going to have one shithead then you might as well have another one for backup.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
123. Jerry Springer would be the perfect host,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:00 AM
Sep 2014

Millions of people would tune in to see the palins battling it out with cranky McCain, she has a score to settle with that one!

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
124. I think that the show itself, concept and all, is past its time...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:02 AM
Sep 2014

...and it's truly sad, because we need our journalists to stand up and challenge those in positions of power, from any political party.

Meet The Press was created in a different era, when people were far more educated and interested in civics and government. Remember when civics was taught as a class? Now, you go to Foxy News, CNN, or Mess-NBC, and the politicians expect to be kowtowed to by these people. Don't want to lose access now, do we?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
125. The show would be great if they returned to the ORIGINAL concept.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:43 AM
Sep 2014

The original concept had a moderator (I think the first one was a woman, too) and a rotating board of the "press"--from all media--TV, radio and print. Nowadays, they could add in electronic media too, if they had a mind. The reporters took turns asking questions, and they weren't always friendly or softball questions. It was a seated press conference, essentially.

The moderator did an "opening salvo" interview, and then told each reporter when they could ask questions and when they had to shut up and let the next one ask questions.

Now, the "moderator" is a "host" and he asks all the (pre-approved by NBC brass) questions, which are hard ones to people who aren't all up in the Big Pharma, Big Business, Big Defense Industry, Big Agro-Business Way of Life, and are softballs to people who support those kinds of things. It's so obvious it's not even funny.

I predicted that Upchuck Tawd would fail, Big Time. He looks like Mephistopheles and his Q scores have got to be horrible--he's as warm and inviting as day old cat shit.

Ampersand Unicode

(503 posts)
143. Lol, they should have Jon Lovitz replace him.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:28 PM
Sep 2014

Seeing as NBC is really just the SNL alumni channel and nothing more.

I predicted that Upchuck Tawd would fail, Big Time. He looks like Mephistopheles and his Q scores have got to be horrible--he's as warm and inviting as day old cat shit.


whatacountry09

(91 posts)
128. Andrea Mitchell belongs there... NOT Chuck Todd
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:09 AM
Sep 2014

It always seemed to me that Chuckie is more of a republican than an MSNBC host.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
142. What tavernier said...
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:26 AM
Sep 2014

no, no, no.

Andrea refuses to give any time to anyone except RW hacks. She won't challenge the lies any more than Chuckie.

Of course, it doesn't matter to me anymore. I quit watching MTP years ago.

If I wanted to watch Fox, why watch a half-assed version.

I did flip to it one Sunday morn, Gramps McCain was on. Kept going.

marble falls

(57,275 posts)
130. Maybe he shouldn't have screwed up his opportunity with the President. I didn't care about him....
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:28 PM
Sep 2014

either way before, I loathe him now. He's auditioning to replace that 'dean of broadasting', Chris Wallace at Fox. Chuck Todd didn't even listen to the President's remarks, he was so vested in his list of "hard hitting" questions of President Obama.

Went in the make his political hit bones and got his butt kicked.

Wanna save Meet the Press? Two words:

Kieth. Olbermann.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
131. I didn't think it was possible
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:01 PM
Sep 2014

to be worse than Gregory, but it seems Chuck Todd has managed it, against all odds.

That said, both men were/are only mindlessly following MTP producers' script.

Fla Dem

(23,765 posts)
133. NBC hasn't realized that the majority of their audience were those who DID NOT watch FOX.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:14 PM
Sep 2014

Most people watched MTP in the days of Russert because he at least challenged RW talking points. If they're going to let the RWer's get away with their propaganda, those of us who used to watch, aren't going to watch. We all knew Toadie wasn't going to be any better than Gregory because his "news" reporting was always negatively slanted against Democrats. I would have thought someone who campaigned for Tom Harkin, would have better liberal sympathies than Toad has shown in his broadcast career. But, I guess that's what happens when you sell out to corporate media in order to get ahead.

calimary

(81,513 posts)
135. Hey, is anybody sharing their concerns with the NBC brass?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:23 AM
Sep 2014

Sounds like we need to start a PR offensive via Facebook etc. and elsewhere online. Plus emails and a few paper letters too. Paul Begala once said "100 paper letters can change the course of a newsroom." That's because more weight is STILL given, I think, to the hard-copy correspondence. If somebody takes the trouble to write and send an actual letter, that's usually read as a louder voice from the viewership or listenership. I may do it myself.

Here's what I wrote on one MSNBC link http://www.msnbc.com/speak-out :

I think you should start over with "Meet the Press." Chuck Todd does NOT make it. WHY did you move from Slants-GOP with David Gregory to STILL-Slants-GOP with Chuck Todd? WHEN ARE WE LIBERALS GOING TO GET RESPECT - AND PRIORITY with you folks? If I want republi-CON talking heads on Sunday (and I don't!), there are legions of alternatives. WHERE 'S MINE???????????????

More links:

http://www.msnbc.com/speak-out

https://www.facebook.com/msnbc

https://twitter.com/msnbc/

http://msnbc.tumblr.com

http://www.nbcnews.com

http://www.nbcnews.com/info/contact-us
This one has snail-mail address in NYC: NBC News, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10112
Email: contact.nbcnews@nbcuni.com

calimary

(81,513 posts)
153. I'm kicking this post again, even though it's an old one.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 04:11 PM
Oct 2014

For those grumbling about chuck todd's latest treachery on "Meet the Press."

Has anybody considered writing to NBC NEWS? OR MSNBC ALSO???????

We have to bring it to them! They're not gonna come scrounging here to see how we feel about it.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
138. Prediction
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:41 AM
Sep 2014

Chuckie bombs at this job, gets canned, and then goes to Fox with the sort of heraldry that would make a Royal Coronation look like a low rent wedding.

Harry Monroe

(2,935 posts)
140. Never was a fan of this tripe anyway
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:49 AM
Sep 2014

For me, Sunday mornings are all about rest and relaxation with a cup of coffee, some jazz and my newspaper. I'd rather stick an ice pick into my temple rather than listen to Gregory or Todd pretend they are relevant. If I wanted Fox Lite, I can always watch CNN.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
141. they've yet to find a Tim Russert :(
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:48 AM
Sep 2014

Tim was well liked by BOTH Conservatives and Progressives. Until they find someone similar this will continue to get worse.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
146. A lot of us couldn't stand Russert --
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:54 PM
Sep 2014

that asshole wore a Bush button inside his lapel and secretly flashed it to Republicans in 2000. He was an R hack as well -- but he was more sneaky about it.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
145. When are the corporate oligarchs going to get it ? The American people want real meat and potatoes
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

for news , not corporate fluff and whip cream . It's worthless .

Ampersand Unicode

(503 posts)
149. Middle 'Murica might be prejudiced against Rachel
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

NBC might not want to be "controversial" with the meat 'n' potatoes bunch that still squirms at the notion of LGBT acceptance. The mainstream broadcast networks probably want to "play it safe," and "play it safe" is going to mean straight white guy for at least the next quarter-century. It's the same reason why the over-the-air late night shows and the 6:30 news broadcasts are also helmed by straight white guys. Someone like Rachel would never have a chance on the main network, because you still have to pander to the network affiliates in Dixie, which are probably still airing PTL broadcasts and reruns of "Hee Haw."

I know people personally who no longer watch 60 Minutes simply because Anderson Cooper comes on, and who participated in the boycott of JCPenney because Ellen was their spokesperson. I don't talk to them much, but unfortunately I do know them.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
151. I'd rather watch paint dry than either Todd or Gregory do/say anything.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:52 PM
Sep 2014

At least paint doesn't make me ill.

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