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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIslamists Destroy 7th Century Church, Mosque in Tikrit, Iraq
According to a report by BBC Arabic, Islamists in Tikrit have destroyed The Assyrian Green Church, built in 700 A.D., and Forty Shrine, the oldest Islamic religious shrine in Iraq.
Islamists, most likely ISIS, planted explosives around the Assyrian Green Church, which is located inside the presidential palaces compound in the center of the city, and detonated them, completely destroying the ancient church, which belonged to the Assyrian Church of the East.
Similarly, Islamists planted explosives around the Forty Shrine mosque and surrounding tombs, located in the center of the city in Salahuddin Province, and detonated them, completely destroying the mosque. It is believed the Forty Shrine housed the remains of 40 of Muhammad's comrades, who took part in the Islamic conquest of the region during the reign of the second Caliph Omar ibn al-Khattab in 638 A.D.
ISIS has destroyed churches, religious shrines and mosques in the provinces of Kirkuk and Nineveh, including the tombs of the prophets Jonah, George, Daniel as well as a number of ancient churches in the provinces of Salahuddin and Nineveh. In Mosul ISIS has destroyed or occupied all 45 Christian religious institutions (AINA 2014-07-29).
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JI7
(89,271 posts)there is no point to what they do other than they think it's cool and fun to do it.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)As long as no one was hurt... Meh.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It is criminal.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)People are a different story.
So telling me that some 1500 year old pile of bricks was blown up supposed to get me all upset to the point where I agree with killing people 1/2 a world away? To hell with that.
Throd
(7,208 posts)The second half of your statement is a counter to an argument nobody made.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:50 PM - Edit history (1)
Can you provide a link please where i said we should kill people half a the world away?
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I said killing people 1/2 a world away.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)The point of the op was to bring sttention to the fact it happened.
Throd
(7,208 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Was there a service going on?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)They are of historical, archaeological, and religious importance, at a minimum.
But I get your attitude...too cool for school. I'd think someone with that avatar would have a little more reverence for the
symbolic sanctity of places of worship, but that's fine.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)They are still archeological, they are just flat. As for religious, they still are. I'm not denying that it sucks. ISIS is a group of doody heads. But is this OP supposed to enrage me or something? They blew up buildings. Yes. Does it suck? Yes. Beyond that, am I supposed to be angry, vengeful or something?
I'm angry they murder people. What is the OP trying to get across?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Which, in and of itself, is a bad thing.
I am sorry to inform you that things can happen in the world that will sadden and outrage people who
may elect not to seek your thoughts before they react.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)We are heading full on into another war. It will be expensive. It will cause a lot of death, dismemberment, broken families, famine, etc... In light of that, what does my "meh" have to do with any of that? Nothing. Did they kill anyone when they blew up the buildings? If not, then that is a silver lining in my book.
I don't want to go to war over beheadings, bombings, battles, or lines on a map. Least of all over some blown up buildings.
Throd
(7,208 posts)If anyone objected they sure as fuck did.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I think it is up to you to decide how you feel about terrorism.
onenote
(42,767 posts)which are probably the oldest structures in North America, simply because they hate Native Americans, you'd say "Meh"? If they destroyed Indian burial grounds, you'd just shrug it off as no biggie, certainly not worthy of your outrage or condemnation?
Lame.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It's either lose the ancient, historic sites and save people, or, save ancient, historic sites and lose people?
Typical, fallacious appeal ...
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Thanks for the thread, n2doc.
LostInAnomie
(14,428 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)What a loss
Rex
(65,616 posts)Why are they destroying their own holy sites?
n2doc
(47,953 posts)They consider churches and mosques, especially those of other strains of islam and other religions, as idolatry. Kind of like the Taliban.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Great, not just crazy but extremely crazy.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)The Saudi's started to destroy the tomb of the Prophet in Mecca but were stopped by backlash from other Muslims. I suspect ISIS would probably destroy it if they could get away with it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)and or cherish as holy. I question their sincerity to the religion they supposedly place above all else.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)but then again they could make money off entrance fees..
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)When ISIS freaks fuck up the Islamic world by themselves? Utter stupidity.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Why?
Because they are nothing more than death squads and mercenaries funded and trained by the military industrial complex to commit mass genocide against the indigenous people in the middle east and to keep the war machine going.
Rex
(65,616 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)somehow trying to connect the US to these people blowing up cultural heritage sites?
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Now they are getting their stuff blown up.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)It's fuqqing evil. An attack on history and civilization.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)The destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by the Taliban in 2001 is one of the great cultural losses of our age.
Before and after:
Thank you very little religious douche bags.
It invites the question, Why in the fuck is it always religion which wants to destroy culture? The answer is simple, because they get away with it, which invites the question, Why does anybody let them get away with it?
I don't. Hold their feet to the fire.
Religion is, as Hitchens so clearly argued, is at its core poisonous. But like Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, Dennett, Stenger, Myers, and all the others, we recognize our history and the incredible arts executed in the name of religion. The only way one can be resolute about ones secular argument is to not forget both the great and horrible things done in god's name. And if one is a student of the arts, one despises the destruction (the desecration) of art merely because it portrays a vision of which you do not approve.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)the creation of these 'works of art', just as religion is (allegedly) sanctioning the destruction of them, as well.
It's an interesting conundrum to consider - how religious organizations have bankrolled the creation of art and the destruction of it, in the West and outside it, in just about every culture on earth.