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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:45 PM Sep 2014

Ebola Breakthrough?

Sat Sep 27, 2014 at 10:59 AM PDT
Ebola Breakthrough?
by wilderness voice

Dr. Gobee Logan, a doctor in rural Liberia, has given an HIV drug, lamivudine, to 15 Ebola patients. 13 survived. Continue past the mating paramecium for more:

http://www.cnn.com/...

"My stomach was hurting; I was feeling weak; I was vomiting," Elizabeth Kundu, 23, says of her bout with the virus. "They gave me medicine, and I'm feeling fine. We take it, and we can eat -- we're feeling fine in our bodies." Kundu and the other 12 patients who took the lamivudine and survived, received the drug in the first five days or so of their illness. The two patients who died received it between days five and eight.
...
[Dr. Logan] also knows American researchers will say only a real study can prove effectiveness. ..."Our people are dying and you're taking about studies?" he said. "It's a matter of doing all that I can do as a doctor to save some people's lives."
...
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases says that theoretically, Logan's approach has some merit.... other drugs in this class are being studied to treat Ebola


Lamivudine is a nucleoside analog:
http://en.wikipedia.org/...

These agents can be used against hepatitis B virus, hepatitis C virus, herpes simplex, and HIV. Once they are phosphorylated, they work as antimetabolites by being similar enough to nucleotides to be incorporated into growing DNA strands; but they act as chain terminators and stop viral DNA Polymerase. They are not specific to viral DNA and also affect mitochondrial DNA. Because of this they have side effects such as bone marrow suppression.


Ebola virus uses RNA only and does not create any DNA. However, RNA requires nucleotides for its assembly just as does DNA, so it stands to reason it could work for Ebola as well as HIV. In any case, it seems to be working, since the chance of this large a proportion of patients surviving otherwise, without treatment, would be quite unlikely.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/27/1332809/-Ebola-Breakthrough
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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
1. If it proves itself - YEEEEEE HAWWWWW!!!!
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 09:56 PM
Sep 2014

Such a horrible disease. So can they make this stuff by the tanker full?

And let's hope the CT assholes have not made it impossible to distribute where it is most needed.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. If it turns out to not be very effective at all, then the "CT assholes" and the people affected may
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:06 PM
Sep 2014

think it done on purpose. That's the reason for a study, but I agree wholeheartedly that this is not the time to worry about studies, given the magnitude of this outbreak and the consequences if we do nothing. How, exactly, would CT assholes keep it from being distributed where it is most needed, anyway? Fly to Africa and block the roads?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
4. By spreading lies in local media, helping to stir suspicion to the point...
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:37 PM
Sep 2014

...where aid workers are being attacked and killed.

Delaware State U. won’t interfere with free speech of professor spreading Ebola conspiracy theories

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014904216

Delaware State University said it won’t interfere with the free speech rights of a tenured professor who wrote a wildly speculative article in a Liberian newspaper in which he claimed that the U.S. government manufactured the Ebola virus and spread it in West Africa under the guise of vaccine testing.


Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
5. 'Free speech?' What happened to yelling 'Fire!' in a crowded theater?
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 10:53 PM
Sep 2014

If someone's right to free speech is creating an atmosphere of suspicion and paranoia that contributes to people being harmed and a deadly disease being spread, their rights should be weighed against the greater good.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
7. LOL! It's the orange squiggly thing on Daily Kos.
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 11:03 PM
Sep 2014

It sort of divides the intro of a story from the rest. People name it all kinds of things. Usually, I edit it out when I post a DK story here on DU; but, I like the medical science geekiness of "mating paramecium", so I left it in this time. It's also getting a lot of attention in the comment section at DK.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
9. This reminds me of something from Derek.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:16 AM
Sep 2014

They were on a bus, going on a field trip, and Derek
was wondering what would happen if you gave AIDS
to cancer, which one would win?

Edit I remembered wrong, it was Aids and Rabies:

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