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MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:25 PM Sep 2014

The Secret Service Ignored Shots Fired Into the White House Residence When Sasha Obama Was Home

The gunman parked his black Honda directly south of the White House, in the dark of a November night, in a closed lane of Constitution Avenue. He pointed his semiautomatic rifle out of the passenger window, aimed directly at the home of the president of the United States, and pulled the trigger.

A bullet smashed a window on the second floor, just steps from the first family’s formal living room. Another lodged in a window frame, and more pinged off the roof, sending bits of wood and concrete to the ground. At least seven bullets struck the upstairs residence of the White House, flying some 700 yards across the South Lawn.

President Obama and his wife were out of town on that evening of Nov. 11, 2011, but their younger daughter, Sasha, and Michelle Obama’s mother, Marian Robinson, were inside, while older daughter Malia was expected back any moment from an outing with friends.

More:
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/28/shameful-peril-secret-service-shots-fired-white-house-residence-daughter-sasha-home.html

Cripes.

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The Secret Service Ignored Shots Fired Into the White House Residence When Sasha Obama Was Home (Original Post) MerryBlooms Sep 2014 OP
How come I never heard of this? 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #1
I hadn't heard about it until it came through my FB news this morning. MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #8
they don't have bullet-proof glass at the white house? really? spanone Sep 2014 #2
They do trumad Sep 2014 #3
thanks, hoped so. spanone Sep 2014 #5
And polycarbonate windows in the West Wing, including the Oval Office. n/t ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #23
Yes they do along with snipers on the roof and TorchTheWitch Sep 2014 #29
"Ignored" may not be quite the right word. enough Sep 2014 #4
Many interpretations of the JFK assassination film say that the SS agents directly on JFK's car were tblue37 Sep 2014 #28
Yes they were Politicalboi Sep 2014 #41
LOL, OK. FFS will this ever end? Oswald did it alone. Case closed. nt Logical Sep 2014 #43
The SECOND Commission would beg to differ with you. So I'll see your LOL, and raise you: WinkyDink Sep 2014 #55
Fake Moon Landings, 911 Shit, JFK. All in the same bunch. nt Logical Sep 2014 #61
Yeah, not being able to access the situation properly is more like it.. which is their freaking job Cha Sep 2014 #58
Shooter plead guilty. Sentenced to 25 years. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #6
Excellent. Thanks. MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #7
Do we know what the shooter’s motives were.. busterbrown Sep 2014 #30
He claimed Obama was the anti-Christ. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #42
Hard to tell the difference, in this case, between mental illness and Fox fandom n/t arcane1 Sep 2014 #51
Really, arcane. It could only be too much fox "news" getting seeped into the brain. Terminally Cha Sep 2014 #59
Just because people say things that sound wacky to our ears, does not make them mentally ill Scootaloo Sep 2014 #52
I'e read some stories about the guy. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #54
Here is the story from the time whistler162 Sep 2014 #9
ty MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #12
Follow the link to the Washington Post article toddwv Sep 2014 #10
Horrible MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #13
I guess that could be a reason for all the hush-hush LiberalLovinLug Sep 2014 #19
I think you are right. Media exposure encourages the terrorists, just ask ISIS. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #26
That was an incredible article. Raine1967 Sep 2014 #25
Odd the broken window KoKo Sep 2014 #11
It's not just coming out now SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #14
Right, but were all these details reported at the time? MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #16
It was reported that it took several days SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #18
Don't know how I could have missed it, though... KoKo Sep 2014 #17
According to Mo up above, the guy plead guilty and sentenced to 25 yrs. MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #15
It came out then. Iggo Sep 2014 #31
No bullets made it "into" the residence madville Sep 2014 #20
They could start by accessing the situation properly in this case and not be ordered "to Stand Down" Cha Sep 2014 #60
But it was reported right here Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #21
I read the entire article and it is chilling. The danger that the First Family faces is mfcorey1 Sep 2014 #22
So frightening... MoonRiver Sep 2014 #24
I can't believe how lax these people are malaise Sep 2014 #39
It seriously makes me wonder. MoonRiver Sep 2014 #46
Same here malaise Sep 2014 #48
I can't help but wonder. If this were a white, Republican president, LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #27
Are you saying the person Obama appointed to head the SS doesn't care if he dies? former9thward Sep 2014 #33
The SS head at the time of this incident was appointed by Bush BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #34
And we have had the famous gate jumper into the residence under her watch. former9thward Sep 2014 #37
Yes, all of them have had "incidents" occur "under (their) watch". BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #45
I did not say anything of the sort LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #35
The person in charge is responsible for those under them. former9thward Sep 2014 #36
The person in charge may be accountable for what happens LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #38
I have asked how many members of the Secret Service malaise Sep 2014 #40
Personally, I think incompetence is the issue and it's time the S.S. cleaned house. n/t MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #57
Oh brother. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #62
The conspiracy theiry needs work. Vattel Sep 2014 #32
No, if they work on it it will go away. That is not fun for them! nt Logical Sep 2014 #44
Yeah but I know who took the whistler162 Sep 2014 #47
It's an article I felt DU would like to comment on. MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #56
I meant that the conspiracy theory proposed in the article needs work. Vattel Sep 2014 #63
ok, thanks. :) MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #65
Probably some loon acting out his hatred driven by a bevy of stochastic terraists who spew their indepat Sep 2014 #49
Is this being released to support further restricting public access to the WH grounds? Generic Other Sep 2014 #50
So during previous administraitons Jeneral2885 Sep 2014 #53
Yup, and this was a pretty big deal back when it happened. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #64

enough

(13,259 posts)
4. "Ignored" may not be quite the right word.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:39 PM
Sep 2014

snip from the article>

This is bad enough. But what makes this alarming is the fact that after these shots were fired into or at the residence of the White House, a Secret Service supervisor issued a stand down order, saying there were no shots fired.

This supervisor claimed the noises were the backfiring of a vehicle, even as agents were preparing to defend the White House. The supervisor issued a stand down order, per the Post: “No shots have been fired. Stand down.”

It took four days for the Secret Service to realize that shots had been fired at the White House. They only finally realized this because of the discoveries of a white House housekeeper (who should receive an award).

snip>

tblue37

(65,360 posts)
28. Many interpretations of the JFK assassination film say that the SS agents directly on JFK's car were
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014

ordered to stand down and back away just before the shots were fired.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
58. Yeah, not being able to access the situation properly is more like it.. which is their freaking job
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:21 PM
Sep 2014

wonder if that "supervisor"was ever held accountable? I would think erring on the side of caution would be their MO.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
30. Do we know what the shooter’s motives were..
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:06 PM
Sep 2014

Was he just another sicko or was he inspired by Fox and Friends?

Cha

(297,240 posts)
59. Really, arcane. It could only be too much fox "news" getting seeped into the brain. Terminally
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:24 PM
Sep 2014

brainwashed.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. Just because people say things that sound wacky to our ears, does not make them mentally ill
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014

Just as being mentally ill does not mean someone is dangerous or deranged.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
54. I'e read some stories about the guy.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:14 PM
Sep 2014

He seems mentally ill to me. It goes beyond the whole antichrist thing.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
19. I guess that could be a reason for all the hush-hush
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:38 PM
Sep 2014

I don't have to read those comments, I've read enough of those bigoted ignorant neanderthals before. But it could be they don't want to encourage this behaviour by pushing this story too much. The fact that one of them managed to actually penetrate the White House with a bullet. You can see from those comments that there are others that may only need this bit of "good news" to try it themselves.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. Odd the broken window
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:16 PM
Sep 2014

next to the Presidents official quarters wasn't noticed and the other bullet marks.

Why is this coming out now when it's from 2011? It's shocking that this could have been kept quiet for so long.

Weren't we assured the WH was so secured that there were snipers guarding on shifts on the roof? Protection of our President is top priority. Just makes no sense.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
18. It was reported that it took several days
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:32 PM
Sep 2014

Before it was confirmed that shots had actually hit the White House, but I don't think the rest of the detail was reported.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. Don't know how I could have missed it, though...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:30 PM
Sep 2014

At least it's getting attention now to go along with other incidents of screw ups by the SS (partying with prostitutes, drunkeness).

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
15. According to Mo up above, the guy plead guilty and sentenced to 25 yrs.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:22 PM
Sep 2014

Today is the first I've seen of the details mentioned in the article.
All very strange.

Iggo

(47,553 posts)
31. It came out then.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:11 PM
Sep 2014

I'm thinking this is part of the new DU "Secret Service is racist" meme, but I could be wrong.

madville

(7,410 posts)
20. No bullets made it "into" the residence
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 01:45 PM
Sep 2014

"Shots fired AT the White House" would be the correct description. Small arms fire from the street isn't a threat to anyone inside the White House anyway so what else should the Secret Service do to prevent it? Eliminate the streets around the fence or restrict car and foot traffic?

Cha

(297,240 posts)
60. They could start by accessing the situation properly in this case and not be ordered "to Stand Down"
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:28 PM
Sep 2014

by their supervisor because it was "only a car backfiring".

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
27. I can't help but wonder. If this were a white, Republican president,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

would the Secret Service behavior have been as obviously lax?

BumRushDaShow

(129,020 posts)
34. The SS head at the time of this incident was appointed by Bush
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:32 PM
Sep 2014

and eventually stepped down to retire last year after a myriad of scandals. Obama's own appointee was Julia Pierson (appointed last year). This is one of the positions that doesn't require Senate confirmation as a side note.

BumRushDaShow

(129,020 posts)
45. Yes, all of them have had "incidents" occur "under (their) watch".
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:18 PM
Sep 2014

including planes crash-landing onto the South Lawn. But the OP is about the gun shot incident. I don't doubt more will keep trying it however.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
35. I did not say anything of the sort
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:32 PM
Sep 2014

This kind of negligence doesn't have to come from the head of the Secret Service.

It could come from rank-and-file members or their immediate supervisors.

Just like individual cops or small groups in a big department can resort to the beating or shooting of black teenagers without it being condoned by the police chief.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
36. The person in charge is responsible for those under them.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:33 PM
Sep 2014

No reason to have a person in charge if that was not the case.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
38. The person in charge may be accountable for what happens
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:39 PM
Sep 2014

However the head may not be aware of, or be able to control, rogue elements in the department.

I speak as a former newspaper reporter who spent nearly 25 years covering police beats among other assignments.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
40. I have asked how many members of the Secret Service
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:59 PM
Sep 2014

are members of militias. I have also asked about the police and military.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
56. It's an article I felt DU would like to comment on.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:35 PM
Sep 2014

I'm in NO way saying what you and several others are implying. I'm not into conspiracy theories.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
63. I meant that the conspiracy theory proposed in the article needs work.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:32 PM
Sep 2014

I didn't mean to imply that you bought into the theory.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
49. Probably some loon acting out his hatred driven by a bevy of stochastic terraists who spew their
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:18 PM
Sep 2014

free-speech-protected hatred daily.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
50. Is this being released to support further restricting public access to the WH grounds?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:42 PM
Sep 2014

Or to illustrate how badly the Secret Service is doing protecting the president's home? Coming on the heels of the guy who jumped the fence, this news must be making for long faces at SS headquarters. It certainly reinforces the argument that the perimeter ought to be widened and strengthened.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
53. So during previous administraitons
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014

There were no cock ups by the Secret Service? The Bushes, the Clintons, the Reagans, the can't remember all US Presidents names (I make no apology) were always secure? Only during Obama's time did the SS cock up?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
64. Yup, and this was a pretty big deal back when it happened.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:26 AM
Sep 2014

So, I don't know how any of the DU members in this thread didn't know about it until today.

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