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blueinindiana

(606 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:14 PM Sep 2014

I successfully drove home yesterday and I did not get attacked by ISIS.

I was not beheaded nor was anyone I know or love forced to embrace Islam or were a burka. I saw the stars and stripes proudly waving on flag poles. I also did not get a sense that ISIS was just moment’s way from “taking over the U.S.”

ISIS of course is yet another one of a long line of “boogeymen” that have “threatened” the U.S.

Is ISIS a bad group? Yes.

Does ISIS need to be punished for their actions? Yes

Is ISIS a threat or will become a threat to the national security of the United States? National security to me means a threat to the sovereignty and stability of the nation.

NO!

Could some terrorist group or some wacko blow something up in America or kill people? Yes.

That was the case before ISIS, the case before Bin Laden, there have always been disgruntled groups or people who want to cause harm in the name of some twisted ideology or belief.

I roll my eyes in the back of my head when I hear all these politicians and talking heads rant about how ISIS is going to attack America and we are all doomed unless we stop them.

We have all heard that crap before, I have been hearing it all my life growing up in the cold war and beyond.

“They are going to take over without firing a shot!”

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I successfully drove home yesterday and I did not get attacked by ISIS. (Original Post) blueinindiana Sep 2014 OP
That just proves how sneaky they are tularetom Sep 2014 #1
See, the bombing worked. (snark) JEB Sep 2014 #2
I am more afraid of the GOP and the Koch's taking over the country than ISIS kimbutgar Sep 2014 #3
+1,000! freshwest Sep 2014 #6
In total agreement with you. n/t wandy Sep 2014 #9
Definitely. They are an imminent threat. jwirr Sep 2014 #10
Monsanto tecelote Sep 2014 #16
But that's the kind of argument that climate deniers make: frazzled Sep 2014 #4
I successfully drove home today without being fried by so-called "global warming". Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #20
Can some one point to any day in the last 13 years that terrorists were NOT possibly targeting Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #5
Far before that! FrodosPet Sep 2014 #12
And before that FrodosPet Sep 2014 #13
But you got Ebola, right? bigwillq Sep 2014 #7
But, you're supposed to be terrified of the latest scariest, hairiest, ugliest, bogeyman...and give Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #8
Yet. n/t n2doc Sep 2014 #11
you drove home KT2000 Sep 2014 #14
Are you magic? Kber Sep 2014 #15
Yeah, but Khorasan probably poisoned your tortilla chips or something gratuitous Sep 2014 #17
By these posts I assume the Bush Admin is exonerated. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #18
On September 10, 2001, you could have posted "I successfully went to work without being attacked Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #19
$79 million to drop a couple bombs in Syria...... KentuckyWoman Sep 2014 #21

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. That just proves how sneaky they are
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:18 PM
Sep 2014

You are even more doomed now than you were before because they didn't kill you this time.

But they are still out there and they are going to kill us all.

And we'll all be laughing at you after they do. Oh, wait...

kimbutgar

(21,154 posts)
3. I am more afraid of the GOP and the Koch's taking over the country than ISIS
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:29 PM
Sep 2014

All this fear fear fear from idiots in the middle east who they say will enter this country are being watched and monitored by the NSA. The TSA and customs will be even more vigilant looking at who wants to enter the country.

But the damage to everyday Americans will be more devastating if the Kochs get their way and make the US a third world nation with the poor fighting amongst themselves for the crumbs. And the Gun nuts becoming vigilantes on the crazy train threatening minorities, gays, non Xtians and women.

That is my real fear. Very close to home are the domestic terrorists who watch Fox and believe their fellow Americans are the enemies instead of the monied Kochs and unregulated corporations who are really the ones screwing them over.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. But that's the kind of argument that climate deniers make:
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:43 PM
Sep 2014

It was cold today, so how's that for you, climate-change hysterics? It's not a very useful argument.

No one of any intelligence is claiming that there is a likelihood that driving home today in, say, Kansas City, you will be attacked by ISIS. But, due to the relatively large-scale recruitment of Western fighters from Europe and North America, there is a possibility that without close scrutiny and degrading of their ranks and capabilities that, one day, an attack could conceivably take place in Britain, the US, etc.

Are some politicians being hyperbolic? Yes. But it doesn't help to fight it with hyperbolic counter-arguments. Calm and steady is what is called for.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
20. I successfully drove home today without being fried by so-called "global warming".
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:20 PM
Sep 2014

I successfully ate GMO food today without contracting weird cancers.

You're right, it works!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Can some one point to any day in the last 13 years that terrorists were NOT possibly targeting
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

the land of the brave?

Any day when Americans were not commanded to be frightened?

The war on terror is no longer being fought, it was conceded.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. But, you're supposed to be terrified of the latest scariest, hairiest, ugliest, bogeyman...and give
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:22 PM
Sep 2014

more money to the MIC.

And, trust our government to give us another one as soon as this one doesn't pan out.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. H.L. Mencken

KT2000

(20,581 posts)
14. you drove home
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:15 PM
Sep 2014

which demonstrates the very problem. As long as we are dependent upon oil, we will always be a part of the affairs of the Middle East. That means everything that goes along with it - religious wars, occupations, refugees, dictators, etc.
Resentment of America's interference in affairs there has caused many terrorist acts - among them the hostage crisis in Iran, World Trade Center bombing, embassy bombings, and the tremendous loss of life on 9/11.

Make no mistake about it - we WILL suffer more terrorist attacks until we no longer have "American interests" there. Most people will not be affected but some will. To a president that should be taken as a threat to the sovereignty of the nation. Ignoring it cannot be an option.
Sure - some politicians are war mongering but I think Obama's efforts at containment and isolating this latest terrorist group is a wise choice.

The stability of the nation will always depend in part on our relations with the Middle East and emerging terrorist groups are a part of that.
As citizens we can help the cause by learning to go without gasoline, pharmaceuticals, commercial chemicals, jet fuel etc. That would help a lot.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Yeah, but Khorasan probably poisoned your tortilla chips or something
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:24 PM
Sep 2014

That is, if Khorasan even exists:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/28/u-s-officials-invented-terror-group-justify-bombing-syria/

I get the feeling we're being played like an orchestra full of Stradivariuses.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
18. By these posts I assume the Bush Admin is exonerated.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:37 PM
Sep 2014

Because everyone here is having a grand old time ridiculing a group that has stated its desire to kill all Americans,
and has done exactly that with the ones it's managed to get its hands on.

Please, wiseasses, can you spare us your poignant my-buddy-died-in-that-attack posts if and when an attack does occur?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. On September 10, 2001, you could have posted "I successfully went to work without being attacked
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

by Al Qaeda", and simply dismissed this as scaremongering propaganda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
21. $79 million to drop a couple bombs in Syria......
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:33 PM
Sep 2014

bipartisan support in DC for that.

Boggles the mind and makes my stomach hurt.

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