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Gravis Marketing Poll for Townhall(!): Mary Burke 50% to Scott Walker 45% (Original Post) Zynx Sep 2014 OP
Paul Ryan is the worst thing to happen to congress ever. WI needs to boot him O U T ! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #1
From the first article: femmocrat Sep 2014 #2
There have only been two other polls, Marquette and Rasmussen, and both showed pretty much a tie. Zynx Sep 2014 #3
This race is tied when looking at the other polls. Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #4
Yeah. She's being the Not-Walker. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #5
She has to motivate the undecided postulater Sep 2014 #6
Careful with Gravis Marketing. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #7
"I don't know how legitimate this is..." DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #8
Wow. For many years I've been aware of the potential Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #9
There have been instances where polling firms have been accused, with good evidence... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #10

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. From the first article:
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
Sep 2014
That result is a bit of an outlier compared with other recent polling showing Walker inching ahead in the race.


Hoping that it is true, though!

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
3. There have only been two other polls, Marquette and Rasmussen, and both showed pretty much a tie.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:25 PM
Sep 2014

In a truly tied race, you'll have polls on both sides of the flat line. I think that's what we're really seeing.

Baitball Blogger

(46,769 posts)
7. Careful with Gravis Marketing.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:09 AM
Sep 2014

They have a history of over-polling Republicans. If they suddenly go the other way I would suspect it was an effort to build credibility for the big games.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. Wow. For many years I've been aware of the potential
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:37 AM
Sep 2014

for someone to run a bogus polling operation without actually collecting data. Why over-sample Republicans when you can just invent them?

In my imagined scheme, the poll would show the paying candidate as doing better than in the rest of the polls right up to the time of the election, at which time you would bring your invented results in line with the findings of the more legitimate polls. You'd be selling the PR value of showing your client ahead in the poll until the very end, at which time you'd "detect" a sudden change in the mood of the electorate and end up with a polling result that, because it is simply based on the average result of the real polls, would produce a respectable predictive track record and retain the appearance of legitimacy.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
10. There have been instances where polling firms have been accused, with good evidence...
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:02 AM
Sep 2014

There have been instances where polling firms have been accused, with good evidence, of just making shit up.


I subscribe to Hanlon's razor; never attribute to malice what best can be attributed to incompetence. I suspect Gravis accumulating the raw data but is clueless when it comes to collating it.






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