Pretty smart if you ask me.

ETA: Subject line should read, macho posturing increases chances of getting stabbed. Wife is 100% to blame for her violent behavior.

so that happened too.

However, if someone has a butcher knife, I'm not going to get all macho unless I've got a gun or really good kung-fu skills.

YMMV.

ETA: If he had said, very calmly and non-machoey, "Dear, let's sit down and discuss this very calmly, please", he might not be in the hospital. Once the coast was clear, he could say, um dear, I think you need anger management for the butcher knife thing. Ya think ?

It's possible that if he had said other things she might not have stabbed him, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Let's go with your thought exercise.

Assuming you're the kind of person who would press charges (this guy, being all chivalrous n' stuff, clearly is not)...
She has a knife so you leave the house and call the cops. Police arrive, find Mr presumed-guilty outside with his phone and recent text to his "friend", and Ms tearful presumed-victim waiting in the kitchen. No clear victim, so in 99.9% of cases, he'll go to jail.

Absent the knife wounds, there would be no justice. "Do what you gotta do"? In fact, taking the injury is what he had to do to get intervention - and even then, no prosecution.

Another link: http://wkbn.com/2014/09/25/wife-stabs-husband-five-times-for-texting-friend/

You?

He obviously either loves her, fears her, or both. What a bad situation to be in.

Seems like a knife in the chest could change a person's world view for a few seconds.

I'm 6'7" and 265 pounds of pure muscle. I was a Marine also. Actually I WAS the United States Marine Corps for the years 1985 to 1990 inclusive.

A butcher knife would have zero effect on me. ZERO. I would walk away while she plundered my kidneys and back with that puny piece of metal. Bet she wouldn't break skin either, because you know, women are weak and all.

Talk about a bad day.

I need his official declarations to properly manage my life.

He may never come back, man. He just might be done after this time out. Never. Coming. Back.

<snort>

Goodness gracious me.

...with a butcher knife I would stop her. If I had to cold-cock her to do that, then that's what I would do without hesitation.

I think "butcher-knife wielding wife" is probably the best description.

The meaning of scorn is to treat with disrespect or contempt. I'd say his cavalier and unrepentive response to being caught cheating well fits the phrase of scorned wife, not to excuse her violent overreaction of course.

It's odd how some read all that and only came away with that particular word. I don't believe it was at all demeaning in this context.

The "subtext" of "the woman scorned" is that women behave in "hysterical" and "unhinged" fashion when they are thwarted/disrespected/ignored/dismissed. I put those words in quotes because they get the same kind of reception as the phrase "woman scorned" gets.

I can't tell you how strongly I think your phrase was a bad 'un, especially here, where this ground has been covered more than once.

Sample: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025244119

I was just going by the Miriam Webster definition as a verb.

I'm just advising you of a cultural norm I've observed within this grouping.

You can disregard my caution if you'd like, but don't be surprised if you see some blowback.

I'm not the first one in this thread to so advise you (see the succinct post 2).

But you actually missed the whole point of the post. That you read my post and only came away with what you perceived as disrespect for the woman is interesting. Had the gender roles been reversed in the article, this thread would have been locked within ten minutes.

This is my final comment on this dying thread. Please read it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5610653

FWIW, I think that Knifey The Bride needs to be jailed, tried, and do five to ten for attempted murder at a minimum. I think Macho Husband was an idiot for "challenging" a nut with a knife. I think they probably have a toxic marriage. Divorce is advisable. I think the one with the stab wounds is the victim, and the one who swung the knife was the perpetrator.

But what I also think is that when you hit a couple of "code phrases" up in this place, you end up with threads getting derailed. One of those code phrases is "woman scorned." I even provided you with an illustrative link as a way of warning you, but you didn't take the point.

The only way you could have made it worse would have been to call her "hysterical" as well.

Then again, if the crew that gets up in this kind of stuff has you on ignore, maybe they missed it all and you've nothing to sweat.

Also interesting....didn't press charges.

Domestic violence is funny sometimes, and especially if it involves paramedics and bleeding guys.
Victim blaming? Of course! Who else's fault could it possibly be?
Unilateral abuse by wives against husbands never happens.
"I would never hit my wife, no matter what" is a good plan... because equality.

Who said unilateral abuse by wives against husbands never happens?

And you're surprised to see victim blaming?

Do you read a different version of DU than I do?

Yours? Mine? The OPs?

"... I'm ruling out anger management counselor." <insert laugh track here>

It's the perfect combination of victim blaming and ridicule. He wouldn't be holding his guts in place if he were better at managing her anger.

Neither of them appear suited for a career in anger management counseling.

The opinion of one or two DUers doesn't really speak for the whole site (in other words, you didn't really learn that "domestic violence is funny sometimes" on DU; you learned that one specific DUer made fun of an assault victim - unfortunate as that is).

However, would you dare someone with a butcher knife ? Not me. Bad choice of words by him, and yes, he could have gotten stabbed no matter what he did, but daring her to stab him ? Not a bright move.

your disclaimer that she is to blame is meaningless, it contradicts everything you are saying.

You think saying that is a wise move ? I don't. I live in the real world, where an enraged woman holding a butcher knife is to be run away from or talked to very calmly.

I'm done here. She is to blame...and not being contradictory.

The husband is not to blame for being stabbed, but it is certainly better to try and defuse a situation like that. Do you tell someone with a gun to go ahead and shoot? Or someone on a building ledge to go ahead and jump?

Probably there was nothing he could say to prevent his being stabbed, but I don't think it is blaming the victim to suggest he might have been better off not saying what he said. Maybe he thinks that, too. Maybe that is why he isn't pressing charges.

the guy saying "Whatever. Do what you are going to do". We dont know the context is the problem. If this is the 20-30-100th time the wife has threatened him, or has threatened to do multiple things, he may be over the threats.

The mistake made here is not to seize the opportunity and press charges and get the upper hand in the divorce.

She is going to kill or maim him eventually if the marriage continues.

I would have run out the door, called the cops, and filed for divorce.

We will have to agree to disagree on this. I'm not going to be Mr. Tough Guy and say "do what you gotta do". Not smart, by a long shot.

Do you tell female domestic violence victims that they should have watched what they said to their abusers?

He could have cursed her in 4 different languages and she still had no right to stab anyone.

So bravo, I guess.

Hopefully the woman is going to jail for a long, long time where she can think about what an idiot she is.

not only by texting someone against her wishes, but then by challenging her and egging her on to attack him. I trust he will be charged with domestic violence and tried as soon as he gets out of the hospital. We can't tolerate this sort of male brutality toward women.

I just KNOW I'm gonna need this-------->

I think that's common sense. She is 100% to blame for being violent and should be charged by the DA.

I was trying to satirize the "blame the victim" mentality; e.g., when a woman is raped it's because she provoked the guy with her dress, manner, choice of location, or state of insobriety.

which is just asking for a stabbing in my book.

There's never any reason to go after someone physically that you are in a relationship/marriage with. No bueno.

And he's refusing to press charges against her? Whaaaat? At some point shouldn't the authorities being making a call on attempted murder?

Pirro is the talking head at Fox who two weekends ago spouted a diatribe about Obama completely ignoring the threat of ISIS. So if there is a name of the woman who did this I will google it - but Pirro is a hateful race baiting Republican.

Yes,

What is with the victim blaming, ferchrissakes?

Instead, when the man is the victim, he is mocked for bringing it on himself.

Maybe he doesn't want to press charges but he should have her committed to a mental facility for being a danger to anyone around her.

The victim is not to blame!

I posted this article as a direct result of a discussion I had this week with my GF. I showed her the article and told her that if the genders were reversed this article would get dozens of supportive replies for the victim and recs all the way to Friday. There would be no acceptable reason to blame the victim or tolerance for offering an excuse to the attacker.

This discussion of double standards goes back to the Ray Rice incident when I posted the story of my first marriage. She was a weapon grabber and often used hand tools, utensils, and even insecticide effectively as an equalizer. I pointed out that I was a big ol' biker and was expected to suck it up. People called her "feisty" back then. No one here questioned why I stayed with her or offered consolation.

I carefully chose words in this post that would bring out the long knives if a man stabbed his wife in the article. Had the post been titled "Woman tells cuckold husband to "do what you have to do", I would likely be accused of implying he was goaded into the attack on her. That didn't happen here. I added two mild jokes about the attack which would also be a serious offense in reverse gender. I admit I felt some amusement at what must have been the look on the man's face when she actually stabbed him, but DU is absolutely no place to make light of man on woman DV.

While there were many more replies like yours than I expected, most confirmed my argument that there is a social double standard when it comes to DV, and it's alive and well here in DU. The comments that surprised me most were those offended only by my use of the term "scorned woman" to describe a knife wielding domestic assailant. I honestly didn't see that coming.

This is my reply that spawned this post from Sept 9th along with the comments informing me that there is indeed no double standard. I was told that I was offering a false equivalence to the horrors that women face from men each day:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5509203

I point this out now only because the thread is about buried. Congratulate yourself for being a fair minded and compassionate person. I don't know that incarceration in this case is necessary, but I think both parties should now re-evaluate their relationship and call it quits before someone gets killed.

with your comments. He needs to get out of that relationship. It is abusive.

when being confronted by an angry person with a knife, it's not a good idea to flap your jaw.

putting that quote into the headline is giving people the idea that it is an important part of the story, and that it is a basis for judging the victim.

In fact, that quote is pretty much meaningless in the context of being threatened with a knife by a person that went and actually stabbed the man 5 times in the torso.