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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:14 PM Oct 2014

Judge: Quarantined relatives of Ebola patient should be moved out of contaminated apartment.

He's absolutely right. So when will it happen?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/02/us/texas-woman-quarantine-ebola-thomas-duncan/index.html

The quarantined partner of Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan should be moved with her family out of the Texas apartment where Duncan became sick with the virus and where his sweat-stained sheets were still on the bed, the Dallas County director of homeland security said.

Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, also director of the county's Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said officials are working on that relocation after Duncan's girlfriend told CNN of being forced to live with distressing living conditions.

Jenkins acknowledged "some hygiene issues" in the apartment.

"I would like to see those people moved to better living conditions," Jenkins told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday afternoon. "We are working on that. I would like to move them five minutes ago."

SNIP

In the wake of Louise's revelations about Duncan's sheets and towels, a medical waste contractor was on the way to her apartment, a CDC official said Thursday.

The official did not explain why the contractor is on its way only now, as Duncan was removed from the apartment on Sunday by ambulance and taken to the hospital.

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Judge: Quarantined relatives of Ebola patient should be moved out of contaminated apartment. (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2014 OP
now we know what all those FEMA camps are for? nt grasswire Oct 2014 #1
Relieved to hear that an activist judge is forcing Texas to do the most sensible thing. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #2
No judge is forcing them to move the family SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2014 #15
Agreed, they need to be treated at a facility that is ready to take care of them if they get sick. freshwest Oct 2014 #3
Good point. And what happens after someone gets sick and the new place is contaminated? I Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #4
Same problem again. I think they can be better cared for, and kept safe from mischief at a hospital. freshwest Oct 2014 #5
Home quarantine is useless in a premise where a symptomatic JimDandy Oct 2014 #6
amen. it's also horrible for ratcheting up the panic. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #7
Not to mention the public panic that would ensue JimDandy Oct 2014 #8
aaaaaand, that's what happens when there's no government to speak of nashville_brook Oct 2014 #10
Very much so. uppityperson Oct 2014 #13
Probably not a coincidence rainbow4321 Oct 2014 #9
I think you're right! Bad publicity can move mountains. n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #14
As soon as I heard her CNN interview exposing everything rainbow4321 Oct 2014 #17
Couldn't help laughing at the picture you painted. JimDandy Oct 2014 #18
Uhh, isn't that the first thing that would have been done? haele Oct 2014 #11
Good god about damn time. uppityperson Oct 2014 #12
Absolutely. That is not quarantine that is a death sentence. It should have been cleaned up a lot jwirr Oct 2014 #16
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
2. Relieved to hear that an activist judge is forcing Texas to do the most sensible thing.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:26 PM
Oct 2014

But they need to keep that cop posted so they don't try to run again.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
15. No judge is forcing them to move the family
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:33 PM
Oct 2014

The judge made the comments that they should be moved while speaking in his capacity of local homeland security chief. His role as a judge is just a sidebar here, no legal authority at this point to force a move.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
4. Good point. And what happens after someone gets sick and the new place is contaminated? I
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

wouldn't envy them hving to move again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Same problem again. I think they can be better cared for, and kept safe from mischief at a hospital.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:19 PM
Oct 2014

I only say this because it's not like they're going to be able to work, go to school or any other activities until they are cleared. I don't like this kind of thing, don't get me wrong, it seems to be a violation of their rights. I may be overreacting, but it's less about them to me, than the wingnuts.

The rightwingnuts will stoke up all the hysteria they can, and I don't want to see them mobbed or otherwise attacked. I hope cooler heads will prevail and professionals will be in charge of all patients who suffer from this disease or are just suspected of it.

There will be hatred directed at people who come down with it, I fear, like those with AIDS. If they can be kept safe at home, fine. If they are not infectious, fine.

I don't want to see this blown out of proportion like the rightwingnuts want it to be. Fearful folks don't think clearly.

And because this is seen as an 'African disease,' there is an element of racism from wingnuts.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
6. Home quarantine is useless in a premise where a symptomatic
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:25 PM
Oct 2014

person lived. Forcing his family to continue living there under quarantine, among the biologic detritus he left behind, endangers their lives unnecessarily and deprives them of the level of medical monitoring necessary for tier 1 contacts.

Home quarantines work best for monitoring lower tier contacts.

This was a nonsense decision from the get-go.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
7. amen. it's also horrible for ratcheting up the panic.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:32 PM
Oct 2014

shows the public that if we're in danger we'll be locked in an infected room with an armed guard outside and no provisions. it's not helping.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
8. Not to mention the public panic that would ensue
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:50 PM
Oct 2014

as each person in the household that became symptomatic was photographed by the media (that probably had set up camp outside their residence for just such a money shot) when, as the days wore on, they were hauled, one by one, out of the house by ambulance personnell in full hazmat suits.

Someone clearly didn't think through the public relations aspect of such a visible quarantine situation.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
10. aaaaaand, that's what happens when there's no government to speak of
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:18 PM
Oct 2014

it's been drowned in the GOP's hot tub.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
9. Probably not a coincidence
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:05 AM
Oct 2014

that he makes this announcement after the lady living with the guy has made the media rounds exposing even more of how poorly officials are handling this. She did a damning interview on AC360.
Look for her and the family to be moved to an undisclosed location without access to computers or phones.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
17. As soon as I heard her CNN interview exposing everything
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:37 PM
Oct 2014

I knew local officials were going "aaawwww, shiiittttttt".

Every aspect of this has shown how incompetent our local response has been.
Yesterday they showed Judge Jenkins entering the apartment with a few other people with NO protection gear on....What. The. Fuck. Dude needs to have HIS ass quarantined for 21 days!!!


JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
18. Couldn't help laughing at the picture you painted.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:59 PM
Oct 2014

What a mess. Now that the CDC has released their guidelines on how to handle Ebola cases, those folks will have no excuse if these kind of WTF moments keep happening.

haele

(12,660 posts)
11. Uhh, isn't that the first thing that would have been done?
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:59 PM
Oct 2014

Have them pack up their valuables and transport them in a quarantine house that can easily be monitored and guarded away from the possibility of cross-contamination into other homes, and run a hazmat crew through the place and ensure it's clean?

Oh, I forgot, these are the marginally American poor, or non-citizens working on their visas folk who all are "very darkly tanned". They would be in a "much better place" than they were used to living in should they be moved en-mass to a vacant house in the 'burbs where most of the inhabitants would be much lighter - and better employed.

We can't have "those type" being treated better than they deserve, even if it would be a more optimal way of handling a potentially deadly epidemic getting out of hand. After all, Rick Perry and his friends are protected from any of the riff-raff who might be infected.

And heaven forfend we staff our public services to be able to adaquately deal with this and other potentially deadly diseases that poor people are prone to and could spread around and outside their immediate neighborhoods.
If you can't pay for a service, no matter how critical it is for your survival or how critical for the wellbeing of the community at large for you to have it, you don't deserve that service. Who cares how many other lazy moochers you take down with you as you go into your death spiral? Heck, go ahead and wipe out half of Texas with Ebola or Typhoid or Tuberculosis or Malaria or West Nile Virus - as long as it doesn't touch the people who really matter - the ones who can pay to have competent doctors and medical facilities take care of them, or can just leave for their hunting cabin in Wyoming or lodge in Colorado if it looks like too many people around them are getting sick.

Oh, Did I forget the ?

Haele

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. Absolutely. That is not quarantine that is a death sentence. It should have been cleaned up a lot
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:34 PM
Oct 2014

faster.

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