Sockpuppets/false flag operations - ever heard of them?

It's a little naive to think Republicans were the reason there was division the last time Hillary ran though. An awful lot of long time DUers were staunch PUMAs after Obama got the nom.

To try to back up their claims as to why they think ALL feminists are man-haters, or that we blame all men for every wrong in the world done against women, etc. Well, news-flash, RWers: folks like Dworkin, or Kendall, don't speak for the large majority of us. We aren't like that.

If you got to know us, you'd realize that we're actually pretty nice people, and that quite a few of us are guys ourselves......and that's all. /rant over

turns up some really offensive shit.

Why don't you shut your yap about things you're ignorant about?

Also, free money!

You're weirdly obsessed with her. To the point where if I were her I'd be trying to figure out who the hell you are and checking my locality's procedures for a TRO.

To the point where if I were her I'd be trying to figure out who the hell you are and checking my locality's procedures for a TRO.

Are you honestly serious about that? Wow. That actually has me a little concerned that you'd jump to such conclusions. Please, calm down.

Actual feminists on DU cite her less often than you do, which is creepy.

Seriously. Have you been following me or looking me up on Google or something? That'd be about the only thing that would even come close to explaining your sudden outburst here.....(and, btw, I haven't mentioned her nearly as much as some other folks, so I dunno where you're even getting this from anyway.).

I guess you must since you're asking if I've looked at your non-DU internet presence. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

She doesn't have that high a profile, and you're shouting about her and not Amanda Mercotte or somebody. Is the reason you're obsessed with her because she's a feminist of color? Considering your frothing responses to the words "white privilege" I'm beginning to suspect that might be the root of the problem. (See, that didn't even cost you $100/hr. You're welcome.)

Okay, now you've gone too far.

First of all, there is no "obsession". Okay? Let's just nip that bullshit in the bud right now. Secondly, if you absolutely must know(and since I recall you asking me never to PM you.....we might as well leave in the open), you may remember that #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen crapola? Yeah, that caused a fair bit of trouble.

What I'd like to know is why you have suddenly come out like this, out of the blue, when said person has only been mentioned maybe a few of times over this past month and a half? Is there some sort of grudge you have? Sure is beginning to sound like it, especially with the false insinuation of supposed bigotry(and don't tell me you didn't!).

with similar views, including much more visible ones. I'm not the first person to notice. Hell, another DUer who is on twitter (I'm not, so don't bother looking) messaged her there to ask why you're posting about her so often and to express a safety concern.

I only found out about that exchange after asking that person if she knew why you were so obsessed with a feminist on twitter, had she blocked you or what?

So yeah, you're obsessed with her, other people have noticed, and it's concerning.

Hell, another DUer who is on twitter (I'm not, so don't bother looking) messaged her there to ask why you're posting about her so often and to express a safety concern.

Well, whoever this other person is, assuming this actually happened(though I have my doubts), is either completely paranoid or full of shit.

So yeah, you're obsessed with her, other people have noticed, and it's concerning.

I'll state this again. You are literally the only person who has voiced a complaint. And not one peep out of anyone before today over this alleged "obsession". So that tells me there's something else going on, and I think I'm beginning to realize what.

(P.S., and no, I have not once talked to her, nor do I care to.)

On what planet is that not obsessive and weird?

If somebody kept posting about you on some website you don't use because you said something they didn't like a year ago, and they did it using your real name rather than your nom de internet, would you possibly find that concerning?

Accuse Dems of "Misandry" if they aren't on board with her ramming through to Presidency without any oppostion?

I hope this is a "Trial Balloon" put out on Dem Leaning Sites to see reaction and that it Deflates SOON. UGH! Who told you to put this disgusting drivel out there with accusations against Dems to "GET ON BOARD" otherwise you are a misogynist.

She's gotta do a whole lot better than that kind of Dirty Politics trashing Females who want an Open Primary with many Candidates having the ability to Speak to the American People.

What's with this?

would not resort to that? Has not resorted to that? Right after the 2012 election that Obama won with the help of single women a misandry/misogynist war broke out on the DU. And sucked a lot of people in to fighting on one side or the others. Facts are that one thing the vast majority of democrats agree on is women's right. And that scares the GOP. So they log on here and other places and create a wedge issue that serves them and makes us pissed off at each other. Please don't fall for it.

Are you trying to insinuate that those of us Dems (Females) who don't fall all over the "Inevitable Clinton Presidency are influenced by Faux News" and GOP?

That's quite a Trash Out...there. I'm an active Dem...and been on DU since the beginning...and we don't fall for those kind of tactics when it starts early and is so "In Your Face."

Open Primary....Let all Candidates Declare and INCLUDE the Third Party. America wasn't founded on Dynasties. Whether it's Bush or Clinton. Enough is Enough.

I remember when all those "white privilege" threads started popping up all of a sudden, as well; this literally came outta nowhere, too. I'd been here since June of '11 and not once do I remember seeing even one of those threads in GD until this last year, and I'm a pretty active member, too.

Something's definitely been going on for sure.

be looking for a discussion with others in a dem forum.

Hence, stuff like #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen, etc. ends up being harmful, even if not intended as such.

"Shoot the messenger", as it were. In fact, I'm afraid you can even find an example of such on this very thread. See post 13.

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most likely they are completely honest, so there is only partial calling them out on their attack. And we get attacked when we were not attacking any democratic position on any issue, but simply that our issues are used against us by outsiders. It is tough. But better to plug along and call out the most blatant wedge issues - I think. Even that Harry Potter actress stood up in front of the UN to call out misandry. And I thought then...it could easily be bullshit and here someone is standing at the UN calling it out, as if hating men is in the hearts of women and a sudden plague around the world, which it is not. And I said...I gotta say something.

You have got to be kidding.

White privilege is a recognized social phenomenon. I realize you don't "believe"" in it, but have you noticed who else shares your unwillingness to understand it?

RW nut jobs, that's who:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/public-schools-teaching-white-privilege-to-your-kids/

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/public-school-teaches-white-privilege-class.html

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/05/13/unbelievable-harvard-students-now-must-attend-class-on-white-privilege/
(debunked, btw: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27417109)

RW nut jobs, that's who:

Nice try. But you fail to understand that their reasoning is wholly different than that of those on the left who reject WP. In all honesty, the right only really talks about WP so they can use it as a bludgeon against the left, so they can ridicule us, etc.; you know what, though? Deep down inside, they actually secretly wholeheartedly embrace this imaginary "privilege", being the hypocrites that they are.

Whereas those of us on the left who reject it realize it's flaws and failures as a teaching and are actually trying to find a better way to educate people, even as it's more zealous adherents continue to berate us & attack us. But, suit yourself.

I hang out on "Fundies Say" and we get a few misandrist comments submitted occasionally (although nowhere near as often as MRAs). Thanks for the warning though, I'll bear that in mind.

Yeah, there will always be the odd troll. But when it becomes systematic....don't fall for it.

I've been active here for years but frequently take long breaks so I must have missed that one. I'll keep an eye out for it recurring though.

Put on some coltrane and things will ok tomorrow. It is only thursday, my friend.

And there will be enough dominatrix drag in toons to sate the most ravenous fetishist, too....