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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:30 AM Oct 2014

Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/center-infectious-disease-research-policy-university-minnesota-ebola-may-become-airborne.html

Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols
Posted on October 2, 2014 by WashingtonsBlog

We CAN Stop the Ebola Epidemic … But ONLY If We Understand How It’s Spread

Michael T. Osterholm – director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – wrote in the New York Times last month:

Viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice.

If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola.
Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico.

Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.


The Guardian reports today:

There is a ‘nightmare’ chance that the Ebola virus could become airborne if the epidemic is not brought under control fast enough, the chief of the UN’s Ebola mission has warned.

Anthony Banbury, the Secretary General’s Special Representative, said that aid workers are racing against time to bring the epidemic under control, in case the Ebola virus mutates and becomes even harder to deal with.


Two Infectious Disease Experts Say Ebola In Its CURRENT Form Is ALREADY Spread By Aerosols

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Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols (Original Post) Karmadillo Oct 2014 OP
It's time to panic... Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #1
That Canadian study was revealed to be probably flawed, with probable virus transmission uppityperson Oct 2014 #2
yup Marrah_G Oct 2014 #5
True. But the professors at the University of Illinois pnwmom Oct 2014 #9
They cite the same studies of macaques and pigs. However, it is possible, bit never uppityperson Oct 2014 #10
I guess the CAPS are to make it EVEN MORE SCARY!!11! PSPS Oct 2014 #3
Your caps ARE FRIGGIN ME OUT WAAA!!!! TheVisitor Oct 2014 #13
IF YOU CAN'T USE CAPS what the point? Javaman Oct 2014 #17
He did read my email! kickysnana Oct 2014 #4
Sooner or later the party is going to end. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #6
Potential, yes defacto7 Oct 2014 #11
Just going to respond with this Marrah_G Oct 2014 #7
Hopefully they will get some vaccine going soon. thecrow Oct 2014 #8
Oh darn and I was waiting for a cure to the common cold. gordianot Oct 2014 #12
"...There is a ‘nightmare’ chance that the Ebola virus could become airborne..." ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #14
Why Ebola is Very Unlikely To Go Airborne rocktivity Oct 2014 #15
We're doomed. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #16
top doctors. Javaman Oct 2014 #18
Viruses of the Filoviridae family are highly unlikely to become airborne MohRokTah Oct 2014 #19
Oh dear, Washingtonsblog. NuclearDem Oct 2014 #20

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. That Canadian study was revealed to be probably flawed, with probable virus transmission
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:36 AM
Oct 2014

through spraying feces down with a hose into the other cages. It also showed the virus did not transfer macaque to macaque, only from the pig to the macaque probably through feces contamination.

This does not mean this outbreak should be let go, but rather get it under control by sending people, money, supplies. And no need to sensationalize it as it is bad enough as it is.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. True. But the professors at the University of Illinois
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:20 AM
Oct 2014

also cited other studies that indicated to them that aerosol transmission was unlikely but possible.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. They cite the same studies of macaques and pigs. However, it is possible, bit never
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:36 AM
Oct 2014

has been shown to happen. Unlike the OMG subject line that iT HAS.

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
4. He did read my email!
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:42 AM
Oct 2014

"accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing."

He doth protest too much.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
6. Sooner or later the party is going to end.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:48 AM
Oct 2014

We always think it will be some future date.My fellow DU denizens, this has the potential to be horrendous beyond compare.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. Potential, yes
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:46 AM
Oct 2014

Probable is still in committee.

Sooner or later, the party will definitely end. It could be Ebola, it could be nuclear war, it could be the ocean decides to release its concentration of sulfur dioxide at the ocean bottom just waiting for a warm flow to push it to the top and 95% of all life on the planet will die in weeks/months? who knows.

Ebola is horrific already. We just need to learn what we can, take what we know and deal with it as needed. Fear is highly overrated.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
7. Just going to respond with this
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:51 AM
Oct 2014
http://time.com/3342305/airbone-ebola-not-happening/

Could it happen? well sure it probably could, we are still learning about viruses. But it is unlikely. The article explains why.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
12. Oh darn and I was waiting for a cure to the common cold.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:47 AM
Oct 2014

Funny things viruses just when you are supposed to worry about terrorist. Who really thinks all the information about a serious disease will explained any time soon?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
14. "...There is a ‘nightmare’ chance that the Ebola virus could become airborne..."
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:07 AM
Oct 2014

What does "nightmare chance" mean?

Because of the speculation and the meaningless phrases, I have a difficult time taking this article seriously. I agree Ebola is serious, and I don't blame people for wanting it to be contained as quickly as possible, but this article is absurd.

The title is absurd. Wtf is a "Top doctor?" I googled "top doctor," and it seems to be meaningless. Some organizations have criteria for their lists of top doctors, but different organizations have different lists of top doctors. The term is never is defined, or even used, in the article, but those are the first two words in the title.

Two Infectious Disease Experts Say Ebola In Its CURRENT Form Is ALREADY Spread By Aerosols


Why only two? Are the other infectious disease experts saying otherwise, or did they only ask two experts, or what?

The article contains lots of fear, but little substance.

All that said, I do agree Ebola going airborne would be potentially extremely destructive.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. Viruses of the Filoviridae family are highly unlikely to become airborne
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:31 AM
Oct 2014

The structure simply doesn't fit with airborne viruses such as Orthomyxoviridae family varieties.

What's more likely is it will mutate into a form that is transmissable when the infected person is still asymptomatic. That is the nightmare scenario with ebola.

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