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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 06:02 AM Oct 2014

Delay in Dallas Ebola Cleanup as Workers Balk at Task

DALLAS — More than six months after an outbreak of Ebola began its rampage through West Africa, local and federal health officials have displayed an uneven and flawed response to the first case diagnosed in the United States.

In the latest indication, state and local authorities confirmed Thursday that a week after a Liberian man fell ill with Ebola in Dallas, and four days after he was placed in isolation at a hospital here, the apartment where he was staying with four other people had not been sanitized and the sheets and dirty towels he used while sick remained in the home. County officials visited the apartment without protection Wednesday night.

The officials said it had been difficult to find a contractor willing to enter the apartment to clean it and remove bedding and clothes, which they said had been bagged in plastic. They said they now had hired a firm that would do the work soon. The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment.

The delay came amid reports that as many as 100 people could have had contact with the victim, Thomas E. Duncan. And it came a day after the hospital acknowledged it had misdiagnosed him when he first visited.

When Mr. Duncan, 42, was first taken to the emergency room at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sept. 25, he was examined and sent home with antibiotics by doctors who apparently did not suspect Ebola. A nurse had learned from Mr. Duncan that he had traveled from Liberia, one of three African countries where the virus is rampant, but that detail apparently was not communicated to the rest of his medical team, hospital officials said.

The woman with whom Mr. Duncan was staying told CNN that she had been with him the first time he sought treatment at the hospital and that she had twice emphatically told workers there he had been in Liberia.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delay-in-dallas-ebola-cleanup-as-workers-balk-at-task/ar-BB7aQWt

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Delay in Dallas Ebola Cleanup as Workers Balk at Task (Original Post) mfcorey1 Oct 2014 OP
The President is being blamed for Texas being a 3rd world shithole. RandiFan1290 Oct 2014 #1
You might be surprised Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #2
That's my same reaction to the theory that we can't have a breakout here phantom power Oct 2014 #11
County officials visited the apartment without protection Wednesday night. PADemD Oct 2014 #3
An Ebola vaccine has been being tested since summer. DhhD Oct 2014 #5
There is no approved vaccine, so they are not immunized already. LisaL Oct 2014 #8
Did they not take part in the federal study that they knew about? I do not believe you; that is DhhD Oct 2014 #12
Bedding and clothes in a plastic bag sitting in the safest place possible will allow the study of DhhD Oct 2014 #13
Or: "Dallas Govt. Unable To Find Ebola Cleaners Who'll Work For $7.25/Hour" hatrack Oct 2014 #4
Sounds Like The Right Head-Line To Me, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #10
I'm sure the invisible hand of the free market will be cleaning it up any time now deutsey Oct 2014 #6
Blame Rick Perry. In my opinion, Duncan was turned away because he had no DhhD Oct 2014 #7
Given The Seriousness Of Ebola Shouldn't Any Clean-Up Be Performed By A Haz-Mat Crew.... global1 Oct 2014 #9
My guess would be privatization. bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #14
Disposing of waste was a problem for the facilities specifically set up to treat these patients magical thyme Oct 2014 #15
Emory needs to send training teams to hospitals across the country. They seem to have all of the mfcorey1 Oct 2014 #16
they are one of 4 facilities in the US with specially designed facilities magical thyme Oct 2014 #20
USA! USA! MadrasT Oct 2014 #17
why didnt that GF say EMPHATICALLY, the man was in touch with a person that DIED from ebola seabeyond Oct 2014 #18
I wonder how much cleanup workers get paid gollygee Oct 2014 #19

RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
1. The President is being blamed for Texas being a 3rd world shithole.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 06:06 AM
Oct 2014

The pics of the vomit cleanup are already being passed around and blaming the President for the idiots in Texas.
It will be the topic on rw radio.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
2. You might be surprised
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 06:46 AM
Oct 2014

just how much a lot of America resembles a third world shithole these days

thank your local wealth-stripping oligarch, their political flunkies, and their badged attack dogs

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
11. That's my same reaction to the theory that we can't have a breakout here
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:09 AM
Oct 2014

There is already plenty of America that has slums, poor medical care and a population of superstitious poorly educated people that don't trust the government.

If it got established in any of those areas, I question the premise that we are "better prepared" to contain it. How much better?

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
3. County officials visited the apartment without protection Wednesday night.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:54 AM
Oct 2014

Are they now also in quarantine? Who bagged the bedding and clothes?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
5. An Ebola vaccine has been being tested since summer.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:11 AM
Oct 2014

They may be immunized already.

Any number of labs could be culturing monoclonal antibodies and other molecules as private medicine.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
12. Did they not take part in the federal study that they knew about? I do not believe you; that is
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:09 AM
Oct 2014

my opinion.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
13. Bedding and clothes in a plastic bag sitting in the safest place possible will allow the study of
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:16 AM
Oct 2014

how long this strain can live on dried body fluids or sweat when it is collected and analyzed. Perfect doctoral project; collection, testing, classifying, etc.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. Blame Rick Perry. In my opinion, Duncan was turned away because he had no
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:26 AM
Oct 2014

expanded Medicaid or healthcare insurance. In my opinion, this hospital was thinking that he would go on to another hospital. (They were wearing gloves and had not come in contact with his body fluids.)

Rick Perry has some nerve showing up to speak when his policy of no Medicaid Expansion or Medicaid enrollment available at the hospital through doctors, may have caused this. RW is blaming Obama when it is Rick Perry that is really to blame.

global1

(25,253 posts)
9. Given The Seriousness Of Ebola Shouldn't Any Clean-Up Be Performed By A Haz-Mat Crew....
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:01 AM
Oct 2014

trained to do such clean-ups? Shouldn't the CDC have an official crew that moves in situations like this?

If we are trying to stop the spread of a potential epidemic we shouldn't leave the job to untrained local crews that would visit a contaminated site without protection.

Why hasn't the federal government taken control of this situation - even if it is only to present an image of stopping the spread to the American People and perhaps allaying their fears.

Instead we have the MSM fueling the fires of a potential epidemic happening here in the U.S. by making it the main topic of all their newscasts.

If this is a public health treat - it should be treated as such and the federal government - in the form of the CDC should have jurisdiction in such cases. What is the problem here? Why are they leaving this to rookies?

Doesn't the State of Texas have a Public Health Department with trained Haz-Mat professionals? What am I missing here?

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
14. My guess would be privatization.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:55 AM
Oct 2014

Conservatives love, love, love the idea of hiring private firms to do what were once public sector functions. The problem is that when an emergency happens these contractors are often unreliable. I remember when the town I worked for decided to contract out the function of plowing the municipal parking lots. When the largest blizzard to hit the eastern seaboard in years struck, the public works crews cleared the streets quickly and efficiently but the contractor was a no show for days leaving downtown businesses fuming.

If low paid snow plow drivers are unmotivated to come out when it snows how much less likely is some waste disposal company's workers going to be about clearing ebola contaminated waste from an apartment.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
15. Disposing of waste was a problem for the facilities specifically set up to treat these patients
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:03 AM
Oct 2014

Brantly and Writebol produced so much waste that Armory had to dispatch somebody to the hardware store to pick up giant waste containers and store it on site until they came up with a plan. Ultimately, they had to autoclave all the waste and got rid of it with help from the CDC just up the road from them.

I don't know how they can expect ordinary hospitals to do it, never mind contaminated local sites.

I've said all along I didn't have any fears when they brought the medical workers back here in their biocontainment units. My fear was of people who were asympotomatic while traveling, who walked around after developing symptoms and spread it.

This is turning into a wonderful first case, exposing all the pitfalls as we fall into them one after another.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
16. Emory needs to send training teams to hospitals across the country. They seem to have all of the
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:48 PM
Oct 2014

"ducks in a row."

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. they are one of 4 facilities in the US with specially designed facilities
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 08:53 AM
Oct 2014

and specially trained staff that were set up over a decade ago to treat researchers who work on Level 4 pathogens in the event of accidental exposures. And even they ran into trouble with waste disposal.

The facility in Nebraska is a 2nd one, I think there is one in Boston and I forget where the 4th is.

Unfortunately for Dallas, they are the test case to see what happens when an Ebola patient is in isolation in a regular hospital.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. why didnt that GF say EMPHATICALLY, the man was in touch with a person that DIED from ebola
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:26 PM
Oct 2014

instead of their little game to put the puzzle pieces together?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. I wonder how much cleanup workers get paid
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:30 PM
Oct 2014

Minimum wage, no sick days, no full time, no bennies? Yeah, they might not think it's worth it.

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