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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:34 AM Oct 2014

To Stop Police Brutality, Take the Millions in Settlement Money Out Of Cop Budgets

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/stop-police-brutality-take-millions-settlement-money-out-cop-budgets



As the national conversation around racism and police brutality quickly fades—ramped up briefly in the wake of Michael Brown’s death—U.S. taxpayers remain stuck footing the bills for their local law enforcement’s aggressive behavior. This week alone, Baltimore agreed to pay $49,000 to man who sued over a violent arrest in 2010, Philadelphia agreed to pay $490,000 to a man who was abused and broke his neck while riding in a police van in 2011, and St. Paul agreed to pay $95,000 to a man who suffered a skull injury, a fractured eye socket, and a broken nose in 2012.

In 2013, Chicago paid out a stunning $84.6 million in police misconduct settlements, judgments, and legal fees. Bridgeport, Connecticut, paid a man $198,000 this past spring after video footage captured police shooting him twice with a stun gun, then stomping all over him as he lay on the ground. And in California, Oakland recently agreed to pay $4.5 million to settle a lawsuit a man filed after being shot in the head, leaving him with permanent brain damage. You get the picture.

“That’s why these enormous financial penalties do not seem to actually impact what police do,” said David Harris, a law professor at the University of Pittsburgh who specializes in criminal justice issues. “Conceivably, if cities didn’t want this to happen, they could say this will come out of your [police] budget.”The thing is, these steep payments rarely come from the police department budgets—instead they’re financed through the city’s general coffers or the city’s insurance plan. It’s the taxpayer, not the law enforcement agency, who pays the price.

Other scholars have proposed this, too. Between 2006 and 2011, the total number of claims filed for offenses like false arrest and police brutality in New York City increased by 43 percent. So Joanna Schwartz, a law professor at UCLA, suggested the city could take money from its police budget to pay the associated legal costs. “Perhaps if the department held its own purse strings, it would find more to learn from litigation,” Schwartz wrote in the New York Times. This past June, Schwartz published a study that concluded individual cops almost never pay for their misconduct—rather, “governments paid approximately 99.98 percent of the dollars that plaintiffs recovered in lawsuits alleging civil rights violations by law enforcement.”
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To Stop Police Brutality, Take the Millions in Settlement Money Out Of Cop Budgets (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2014 OP
Make the cop responsible for some of the payment too. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #1
Doctors have liability insurance. Perhaps cops should have it as well Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #2
Remove the officers permanently Uben Oct 2014 #3
+infinity. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #7
Very few of them are ever prosecuted Mariana Oct 2014 #9
Totally agree Uben Oct 2014 #12
Jail Time Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #4
That would help no doubt madokie Oct 2014 #5
One could argue that doing that would hamper the police dept from keeping the public safe tularetom Oct 2014 #6
Paying In A Suit, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2014 #8
^^^ This right here. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #13
I agree with The Magistrate except I would add this. Bohunk68 Oct 2014 #10
K and R. I would extend that to PD commanders and public officials. Smarmie Doofus Oct 2014 #11

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Make the cop responsible for some of the payment too.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:36 AM
Oct 2014

If it hits them personally in the wallet, they might rethink their attitude.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. Doctors have liability insurance. Perhaps cops should have it as well
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:38 AM
Oct 2014

And pay for it from their pockets.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
3. Remove the officers permanently
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:58 AM
Oct 2014

Once an LEO is convicted of abuse, they should never be allowed to hold any law enforcement job again. When the ones WE EMPLOY to protect us show signs they are abusing their jobs, fire them, fine them, imprison them. They deserve no special treatment for abusing the ones they work for. In fact, I believe they should be dealt harsher penalties. Bad cops are the scum of America, and it seems their numbers are rising due to poor training by their chiefs....ie this Jackson fool in Ferguson. If we would hold the police chiefs responsible for their PDs actions, maybe the training would become better.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
9. Very few of them are ever prosecuted
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:37 AM
Oct 2014

much less convicted. If they really believed they were likely to go to prison for beating up on people, I think it would make a difference.

It needs to be a serious crime to cover for another officer, too.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
12. Totally agree
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:29 AM
Oct 2014

The "code of silence" is about as un-American as it gets, but it appears cops would rather be piece of shit traitors to the ones who pay their salary. Any officer caught covering for another should suffer the same consequences as the one who perpetrates the crime because they are standing in the way of justice...the very thing they are suppose to be defending!

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
4. Jail Time
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:48 AM
Oct 2014

Jail time for the cops convicted should do it. Once you send a few to jail, the rest will wise up and stop killing/beating us.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. That would help no doubt
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:50 AM
Oct 2014

might take a while for it to settle in with them but ultimately it would. Even a duck will figure out something if given enough time

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. One could argue that doing that would hamper the police dept from keeping the public safe
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:17 AM
Oct 2014

I'm not arguing that, but one could.

It would make more sense to just hire smarter cops.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
8. Paying In A Suit, Sir
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:22 AM
Oct 2014

Should result in immediate firing of the officer, criminal charges for the behavior he or she has been found by a preponderance of evidence to have committed, or which the city has admitted he or she committed, and civil action against the officer for recovery of the sum the city has had to pay out, allowing any future earnings or income of any sort to be taken, and any property owned to be seized, including any pension vestment.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
10. I agree with The Magistrate except I would add this.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:39 AM
Oct 2014

Take the awards out of the pension funds. That'll stop the shit in a hurry. Why? Because that Blue Line protection thingee. If the so-called "good cops" are lying for the "bad cops", then they are all responsible. Collective punishment, just like the Israelis do to the Palestinians. If it's ok for them to do it.........

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. K and R. I would extend that to PD commanders and public officials.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:09 AM
Oct 2014

Example: On di Blasio's orders, NYC had to pay 18 million dollars, in 2014, to a class action group of hundreds of citizens illegally arrested by Bloomberg's NYPD at the Republican Convention in *2004*.

http://www.nyclu.org/files/newsletterspring2014_final.pdf

You don't arrest that many people illegally unless there is a policy decision further up the chain to do so.

IMO, Bloomberg owes the taxpayers that 18 mill. Plus all the millions in legal fees the city squandered resisting the class action in the courts for TEN YEARS.

Again: that's POLICY. Not the individual malfeasance of individual cops.

If the taxpayer keeps picking up the tab.... what is ever going to change?

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