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global1

(25,253 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:28 AM Oct 2014

Given The Seriousness Of Ebola Shouldn't Any Clean-Up Be Performed By A Haz-Mat Crew....

trained to do such clean-ups? Shouldn't the CDC have an official crew that moves in situations like this?

If we are trying to stop the spread of a potential epidemic we shouldn't leave the job to untrained local crews that would visit a contaminated site without protection.

Why hasn't the federal government taken control of this situation - even if it is only to present an image of stopping the spread to the American People and perhaps allaying their fears.

Instead we have the MSM fueling the fires of a potential epidemic happening here in the U.S. by making it the main topic of all their newscasts.

If this is a public health treat - it should be treated as such and the federal government - in the form of the CDC should have jurisdiction in such cases. What is the problem here? Why are they leaving the clean-up in Texas to rookies?

Doesn't the State of Texas have a Public Health Department with trained Haz-Mat professionals? What am I missing here?

I also just heard a Conn. Congresswomen talking about all the cutbacks in budgets in the last years to NIH, CDC and other health agencies - yet I didn't hear her say anything about the fact that it was the pressing of the Repubs that pushed for all these cutbacks.

What is it going to take to wake up our elected officials in Washington D.C.? What is it going to take to wake up the American People to what our elected officials in D.C. are doing to us to make us less safe?

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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. You have pretty well nailed my concerns. I wasn't even mildly concerned until yesterday.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:37 AM
Oct 2014

I could somewhat accept the hospital screw up with the stricken gentleman.

But the inability to get trained & equipped crews in to clean up immediately is problematic in the extreme.

Some untrained wage-slaves shouldn't be doing this job. And it needs coordination with state and federal govt.


Is also okay to say this situation also highlights why we need UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE in place?

Because infectious diseases find their way into even the oligarchs mansions via staff.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
3. Couldn't find a Haz mat crew that wanted to do the job
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:46 AM
Oct 2014

I think it was left up to the Dallas county public health dept to hire the clean up crew and no one would take the job until they finally got someone hired last night, that was on the local news last night. Don't blame the Hazmats, would you want to clean that mess up for $7.75 cents an hour, one of R. Perry's great miracle jobs in Texas? What gets me is that the family was still in the apartment with the soiled clothing and linens everywhere. They should have sealed the apartment and moved the quarantined people to another place.

I will cut them some slack though, this was the first Ebola in the US and while the big wig scientists were paying attention to all the testing of the patient and virus, they did not have any good procedures for the people and the living environments of those who where involved in day to day contact with this man.

And getting a medical record lost electronically about this guy being in Africa is so dumb. I think the fact that he has just come from that area in Africa along with his symptoms would have been so out of the range for something in Dallas, that people would have actually spoken about to each about it, not just punched some information in on a computer, don't you? Maybe they don't talk to each other anymore.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
5. It's not rocket science. Some of this is just common sense.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

Which I guess explains some of the Texas govt response.

I would think using a CDC or state hazmat team to clean up the bodily fluids immediately would have been a no brainer. It's not the type of darned job you put out for bid. It should be state or CDC team in a "your trained in how to do this, this is the job you do". I don't think DE would put up with my BIL saying "Nah, I don't think I want to do this one. This is a clusterfuck. Maybe I'll take the next one." He was trained, the state paid for some of his training (split 60/40 w/ his company), and he responds on an 'as needed' basis.

I would also think to actually 'quarantine' the family (or anyone who had close contact with him) would be another 'no brainer', rather than saying "You stay right there and don't go out or we're going to be mad." And by quarantine, I mean do the same damned thing they do when they 'sequester' a jury. Stick them some place with limited exposure and a guard until the incubation period is OVER!

Sounds like another Katrina is brewing in Texas, but Gov. Good Hair is 'in charge'. At least as far as we know, he's been making the decisions so far. It SHOULD be the Feds doing it though because Ebola in the US is a potential risk to all of us, no matter where we live.

global1

(25,253 posts)
6. The CDC Should Have Taken Jurisdiction Of This Situation.....
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:12 AM
Oct 2014

The implications of a spread of ebola should have sent up enough red flags to bring in the CDC. This shouldn't have been left to R. Perry's miracle workers. There are trained Haz-Mat crews working out of the CDC that should have been mobilized. We've all seen the movies of how the spread of fictional viruses spread exponentially. I don't want to cause a panic - but a certain amount of common sense should be used in this situation. This should have been pro-active and not re-active.

If I were in Congress - I'd call for an investigation of the handling of this situation. We might be lucky in that ebola is not seen as much of a threat given our sanitary infrastructure unlike in Africa. But if this was a highly contagious virus/bacterial - if it was handled the way this situation - we might be in the midst of a serious pandemic.

Just saying.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
4. "Why hasn't the federal government taken control of this situation"
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:08 AM
Oct 2014

How exactly do you know they haven't? Do you know who's calling the shots down there? I really don't get why so many are so eager to jump on Texas and give the federal govenment a pass just because Texas has a Republican governor and they see it as a 'red state'. Got news for you, this WILL happen in blue states too, eventually. Then what will the excuse be?

And cutbacks? Please. I might believe that has something to do with it once we have multiple cases throughout the country.

Only 100 contacts are being monitored. Fewer than 10 are in quarantine. There is no excuse for this, monitary or otherwise. God help us when the next case in uncovered in another location.

global1

(25,253 posts)
7. Did You See The Pics Of The Crew That Cleaned Up The Vomit In Texas Yesterday?....
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:16 AM
Oct 2014

Did that look like an official federal government Haz-Mat crew? I'm not giving the Federal Government a pass. I'm saying that they should have immediately taken control of the situation and stepped in. The implications of a spread throughout Texas and around the country are IMHO too great to be left to any state. Look at how many people died in Africa to date.

Again - I don't want to cause a panic - but - some semblance of concern needs to be shown federally in order to allay the fears of the American People that the MSM seems to be inciting about this situation.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
8. And again, how do you know the CDC *isn't* calling the shots?
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

Why the hell are they down there anyway?

global1

(25,253 posts)
9. Seems To Me That If The CDC Was Calling The Shots That They'd Want To Communicate That....
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:31 AM
Oct 2014

message to the American People. The fact that we really don't know - either means they aren't calling the shots and it is in the hands of the State or that CDC is negligent in their job.

Again - I'm not picking on Texas - so don't get sensitive about my comments. I'm saying that in this type of situation - whether it was a Red State, a Blue State or a Purple State - the Feds need to step in - given the implications of the 'what if's'. What if this slips away from us and spreads.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. Supposedly "Good Guys" is specialized for biowaste clean-up and yet, if that is the case,
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:57 AM
Oct 2014

why did they arrive at the apartment without the necessary permits for transporting the waste on Texas highways? Shouldn't they have known about the need for such permits?

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