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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:56 PM Oct 2014

Updated CDC Guidance Regarding Ebola

The links below include updates to advisories on a number of issues regarding Ebola, and include specific instructions for handling contamination, etc. It also contains a link to the CDC's main Ebola Update Page, which contains lots of other information and is regularly updated on a daily basis. It's a good resource for those following what the CDC is doing to respond to Ebola in the US:

Interim Guidance for Environmental Infection Control in Hospitals for Ebola Virus - Updated 10/3/2014
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/environmental-infection-control-in-hospitals.html

Evaluating Patients for Possible Ebola Virus Disease: Recommendations for Healthcare Personnel and Health Officials Updated 10/2/2014
http://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00371.asp

Interim Guidance about Ebola Infection for Airline Crews, Cleaning Personnel, and Cargo Personnel Updated 10/2/2014
http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

CDC Ebola Update Website Page - Lots and lots of resources and links to important information
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/index.html

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Updated CDC Guidance Regarding Ebola (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2014 OP
Thanks MM GusBob Oct 2014 #1
My pleasure. I want people to be able to see that MineralMan Oct 2014 #2
Housekeeping staff have been cut to skeleton crews in most hospitals Warpy Oct 2014 #3
I have to assume that additional personnel will be employed MineralMan Oct 2014 #4
Those people will need at least six weeks of training Warpy Oct 2014 #6
Well, you'd certainly know best. MineralMan Oct 2014 #8
I was an RN who floated to all areas, at least theoretically Warpy Oct 2014 #20
60 percent of nurses do not agree with your assessment Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #22
I just heard a radio report stating that at least one Minneapolis hospital MineralMan Oct 2014 #5
Hospitals Around the Country Prepared or Preparing for Ebola MineralMan Oct 2014 #7
Kick so people will see these links. MineralMan Oct 2014 #9
Thank you for the information uppityperson Oct 2014 #10
Glad to help. Accurate information is important. MineralMan Oct 2014 #11
I am wondering if this preparation should include small hospitals in rural areas. I guess that if an jwirr Oct 2014 #12
I think all hospitals should be aware of the guidelines from the CDC. MineralMan Oct 2014 #14
That is what I thought but was asking to make sure I was not just trying to feel better. I think we jwirr Oct 2014 #17
Yes. There's no need to panic about Ebola, I'm sure. MineralMan Oct 2014 #18
good to hear. thank you. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #13
Kicking for important information. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #15
Thanks for the kick. MineralMan Oct 2014 #16
Indeed, MM. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #19
Thanks, MM. longship Oct 2014 #21

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. My pleasure. I want people to be able to see that
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:14 PM
Oct 2014

the CDC is providing guidelines and updating them frequently.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
3. Housekeeping staff have been cut to skeleton crews in most hospitals
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:22 PM
Oct 2014

whether they're for profit or nonprofit. I know 10 years ago that rooms weren't being cleaned properly because of the massive speedup in housekeeping that prevented people from doing a thorough cleaning, not even private rooms where people with resistant infections had been staying.

This is a pipe dream from the CDC unless hospitals are forced to hire adequate staff across the board.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I have to assume that additional personnel will be employed
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:27 PM
Oct 2014

if a hospital has Ebola patients. It's sort of a special circumstance. Most hospitals don't have Ebola patients. If one shows up, those recommendations will, no doubt, be followed.

They do that already with isolation rooms where MRSA patients are.

While I understand that staffing is at a minimum under normal circumstances, and Ebola patient is not a normal circumstance.

The Hennepin County Medical Center here in Minneapolis just completed a drill today designed to test their protocols, just in case an Ebola patient appears. There were a few glitches in the drill, so additional changes were made in the protocol. I imagine that major hospitals in most cities are doing the same thing in preparation for what might happen.

You might want to check your own hospital to see what they're doing. If it's nothing, then ask why. I can only check on facilities in my own area.

Pessimism is fine, but further checking is better.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
6. Those people will need at least six weeks of training
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:37 PM
Oct 2014

in hospital type chemicals and procedures for terminal cleaning after patients with incredibly vicious bugs of all types have been in the room.

I know what the last hospital I worked for is doing--nothing. I would hope that with an ebola case just one state over that the MBA running the place would realize he will need more personnel, but MBAs don't think that way, especially that one. They want cosmetic jobs done by the fewest people possible because people do nothing but suck profits out of the system.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Well, you'd certainly know best.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:51 PM
Oct 2014

I'd think they'd shift experienced personnel to cover that role and bring in new staff in other positions. Surely there would be people trained in isolation room procedures, you know. They already have the required skills.

Apparently you have worked in hospitals. Were you a nurse or doctor? What did you do in "the last hospital you worked for?"

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
20. I was an RN who floated to all areas, at least theoretically
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:16 PM
Oct 2014

The critical care areas kept me busy most of the time.

When housekeeping staff were slashed to the bone, I started seeing things like dried splashed liquids on the undersides of the bedside tables, grunge under the beds, and bedframes that hadn't even been dusted, much less gone over with disinfectant.

Staff cuts hurt, in other words, and are likely to be fatal if the next plague that comes along is an upper respiratory one.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
22. 60 percent of nurses do not agree with your assessment
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 05:24 PM
Oct 2014
http://news.yahoo.com/u-nurses-unprepared-handle-ebola-patients-140327416.html

I am a retired nurse who was in the hospital this spring. I was on isolation protocol and it was only halfheartedly followed depending on the nurse's case load. Sometimes a gown, sometimes not, same with gloves, gown open in back or not. I know what staffing is like in a hospital. I am not confident.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. I just heard a radio report stating that at least one Minneapolis hospital
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:31 PM
Oct 2014

has conducted drills to test their Ebola protocols today. The Hennepin County Medical Center (HCMC) just completed a drill. A few gaps were found and are being corrected in the protocols. Other major hospitals in the area have also established protocols for any Ebola patient who might appear, according to news reports. It's good to know that people are making preparations, even if we hope they are never needed.

Those who have concerns should investigate to see what their own local medical facilities are doing to prepare. If nothing, then ask why nothing is being done. Make noise. Find out what's happening.

That's activism.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Hospitals Around the Country Prepared or Preparing for Ebola
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:43 PM
Oct 2014

A Google News search for Prepared for Ebola shows that hospitals around the US have made or are making preparations to receive and treat Ebola patients. My search showed many hospitals in many cities that have already prepared or are in the process right now. It's worth doing the search. You can add your own area to the search to see if your local hospitals have made preparations. If you don't find a news story, it would be worth checking with your local authorities to see what preparations are underway.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. I am wondering if this preparation should include small hospitals in rural areas. I guess that if an
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:27 PM
Oct 2014

airplane can reach your community then the disease can reach it to. I live in NE MN and it is not a usual port of entry for persons from overseas. This is what I am wondering about. I am not really sure to ask what I am thinking. Is there any area that is not subject to what is happening?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. I think all hospitals should be aware of the guidelines from the CDC.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:32 PM
Oct 2014

How much preparation is needed, I think, depends on the likelihood that someone with Ebola will show up there.

In Minneapolis, for example, there's a substantial Liberian immigrant population, and considerable travel from West Africa. They need to be prepared. In NE MN, I doubt immediate preparation is needed, though. Still, being aware of the possibility is important everywhere.

There's only been one patient so far, though, so I don't think it's an emergency situation, except in our major cities.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. That is what I thought but was asking to make sure I was not just trying to feel better. I think we
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:36 PM
Oct 2014

will be okay in the USA. There are bound to be some mistakes made but we at least have the medical personnel and the facilities to handle a problem and we have good communication to get the word out. Thank you.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. Yes. There's no need to panic about Ebola, I'm sure.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:38 PM
Oct 2014

It will be contained and the outbreak won't affect most Americans at all.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Thanks for the kick.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:34 PM
Oct 2014

I like primary sources for situations like this. And it doesn't get any more primary than the CDC for rare disease information.

longship

(40,416 posts)
21. Thanks, MM.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:19 PM
Oct 2014

I have tried to respond rationally in some threads. Most respondents are okay; too many are over-reacting.

Your links answer all the important question.


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