It comes from guns. Before guns, no one killed anyone. Why just this week there was news about shootings - none of the gun violence would happen without guns.

Now as far as that freeper, ban guns and swords and anything else (but make sure the govt has them please so they can protect us) and viola - no more violence and they cannot harm others (and - and they won't desire to, just looking at the pic of gun makes people want to kill).


Of course I guess we could blame religion and guns (easier than blaming mental illness, education, larger societal problems that take actual work to fix, etc) but then we will end up like we did with that "I don't care if companies don't hire smokers because I don't smoke" thing where, once they got the big OK from people, they have moved to not hiring people with a certain BMI or weight.

IE, the reasons/causes change and the actual problem (freedom or violence or whatever) don't get addressed but people get some slick politician telling them that it is easy to fix...

Hell, whether one believes in the bible or not we have under our feet a garden of eden. All that we need is here - from food to healing herbs to materials to make things we need (including medicines/ships/etc) and what have we done with it since time began?

Used it to fight with one another, make wars, bring about misery and pain and always there is 'some thing' to blame or some 'fear' we are sold to get us all to go along with building new bombs, killing each other, and not sharing our food/resources with others when they need them.

People often ask - "how could god just let X happen" well folks, maybe ole god gave us all we needed and he/she is sitting back asking "How could people there just let x happen?"

Fanatical murderers are a product generated in the factories we have created and processed our fellow humans through.

And the worst ones wear suits and send others to do their killing for them and get celebrated while getting rich from it.

I call em politicians.

I could use the pancake bunny pic here, but it's such a worn out meme.

Instead, I'll just say "uh" again.

Uh?

The US has multiple mass shootings per month. In the whole of Europe, with more than twice the population, such things happen maybe two or three times a decade, and the overall murder rate is one-fifth that of the US. So what's the difference? Clearly gun control has something to do with it.

and the murder rate wouldn't appreciably increase.

The main difference is the presence of a much stronger social safety net and willingness to tackle serious social issues like mental illness and more sensible responses to criminals (focusing on rehabilitation not punishment a la warehousing prisoners for way too long).

Guns are merely tools. It takes INTENT to actually kill someone, and it matters not what particular tool is used for the crime.

considering the 10s if not 100s of millions people killed on the name of Christ, I figured that was the topic.

your typical christian terrorist in america today.

Sure not ALL christians are terrorists, but many are.

The problem is that 'our' government REFUSES to call them terrorists so they can hide behind their religion and commit terrorist acts with very little chance of being caught.

Christians are not anything like terrorists. There are few real terrorist acts committed in this country where someone is not caught. There is no evidence that "hiding behind religion" protects anyone, regardless of which religion you pick.

There are some very dangerous people out there, and some of them no doubt claim to be Christian and motivated by religion when they attack abortion clinics and federal buildings. On the other hand, Martin Luther King was a Christian, and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) was pretty important in the Civil Rights movement.

Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

The FBI uses the following definition:

'Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or Puerto Rico without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives. ' Anti-choice protesters clearly are terrorists per the law.

The US Government is REFUSING To call Christian Terrorists, terrorists even though they (Christian Terrorists) clearly meet the defination.

In practice only non-whites and non-Christians get the moniker ‘Terrorist’ in America.

Not all Christians are terrorists yet the ones that clearly are need to be called by the correct name they earned, Terrorist.

I just think the assertion that "many" Christians are terrorists is mistaken. There are terrorists, some of them claim to be Christian. When someone threatens or uses violence to achieve political ends, they earn the term and it should be applied, regardless of the faith or lack of faith they profess.

Nearly all people calling themselves Christian are not terrorists. Nearly all people calling themselves Muslim are not terrorists. Very few people of any stripe are terrorists. Those who are should be called such.

our government wastes no time calling a person of middle eastern descent a Islamic or Muslim terrorist if a white Christian commits terrorist acts he/she/it gets a pass EVERYTIME by our government and media.

That IMHO is the REAL Problem, giving a pass to white Christian terrorists.

Some of those who threaten violence are investigated by the Secret Service or FBI as is frequently documented here.

There is alot of stuff going around on the web that sounds quite threatening, a good chunk of it fortunately posted by the cheetos brigade from their mom's basement....

i'm still laughing so hard i'm crying!

Um...where did Jesus say that he would come back as a lion? That sounds like blasphemy.

That freeper's been reading too many Narnia books.