for a couple who belonged to some sort of fundy church and Jesus was mentioned so many times that it seemed as if the bride was marrying him, not the man standing beside her. It was beyond weird.

I really think they could use a permanent time out. Seriously.


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Explanation: god said-man said dot com?? LoL! leave it.

Wish I could have that 2 minutes of my life back.

I'm ashamed to ask, but how do I email the admins?

abuse button, it will send a message to the admins. Very glad you asked!

Yeah, I said it again

100% support.

I wonder what the alerter's "problem" was/is.

creeeepy. stupid alert.

How so many people still swallow this Bronze Age bullshit mythology is a great mystery.

women aren't well at that "time of the month".

And the minister was just fine with that. It actually was one of his suggestions.

The bride was from Kentucky and they're ultra religious fundamentalist and the preacher kept talking about how marriage is between one man and one woman, and how the bride must be submissive, yada yada, yada... And it was a long ass ceremony at that. Thankfully there was an open bar at the end of the tunnel.

And alas, there was no open bar at this wedding. I don't think any alcohol was available, even for purchase. And to add to the idiocy, the bridal party took some kind of a long detour so that wedding photos could be taken at some particular venue, and about half the guests gave up and left when a good two hours into the supposed reception they still hadn't shown up.

And the venue was nice but it was in Arizona in September with no air conditioning in that part of the building. It was a nice wedding but I could have seriously done without the right wing marriage talking points and the frequent Jesus and God mentions.

And DH and I thought it was strange. The minister also went on and on about how they were going to be missionaries.

Afterward, she came up to me and suggested that my husband and I should consider "really" getting married, since we were married at the courthouse. She still won't acknowledge that we are actually married, nearly 25 years later!

Then, at the reception they went around with a video camera and had everyone say three words that they thought of when they thought of my cousin.

This was her WEDDING and I've never heard the words, narrow-minded and judgmental used so many times.

I opted out under the 'if you can't say something nice' rule.

Ahhh, Fundies. They're so um, exotic.

Now what?

That's how it works in their weird little world they live in.

Grandpas both gone, no brothers (just a twin sister) and although I love my uncle dearly, I wouldn't let him pick my fruit out let alone my husband.

Pretend it's 1804. That's how it works for them.

3 musicians and a lawyer. And I would guess I would be living with my mother until one of them decided otherwise. Love my mom but no.

With No Man To 'Protect' You? Quite Bold!! Quite Bold, Indeed!

And living in Babylon the way I do (NY). I truly don't understand the attitude these women have. It's like they hand over their lives to someone else and are programmed to think they're happy about it.

I swear we could put them into a time machine and put them on the Mayflower. They could have survived the Salem Witch Trials, no problem. They would be excellent subjects for a christian themed Time Travel Romance.

I can imagine the book now... Innocent christian woman, rescued by Jesus and thrown back to a simpler time; a time when men were manly, and women knew their place like in the Bible.

First making the older girls into maids and babysitters for the younger ones and then deciding who and when they will marry. They will never know the joy of making a life choice about work or relationships. I feel nothing but scorn for the parents and pity for the kids.

I feel like they purposely leave their girl unprepared for real life, so that they have no choice but to let their parents tell them what to do next. That 's why I think it's disturbing that the kids never get to go to school, meet new people, whatever. Their parents are afraid that they will get a taste of real life and run the hell off. And one will. One of those kids is going to make the big sacrifice and leave the nest without a husband. And it will end. And we will find out just how dysfunctional it was in that home for the kids.

I find Jim Bob to be creepy. Don't know why. I find the mother to be phony happy.

her kids that she was forbidden to make for herself, so I guess she might feel that will make up for it.

She will continue to be property with few rights.

I always noticed on the show that the girls did all of the house work and baby sitting. I would never do that to my daughters.

We still have people that believe this crap and live this way.

Then why are her parents making the decisions for her?

This is wrong on every level.

just a tad erroneous.

Thinking at all, much less thinking clearly, is not a fundie strong suit.

think for themselves or make decisions for themselves. I feel so bad for them and hope someday they will wake up.
I can't imagine even wanting to do that to my daughters. As a parent, it makes me happy to see my kids make their own choices.

made God pay for the wedding then

Maybe if people stopped giving him handouts every weekend, he'd straighten up.

I am sure the caterers, photographers, florists, musicians, etc. must LOVE that!

Most likely a big family row about money.

I guess she really does mean it

People like this see sex as a slightly distasteful undertaking that's only done when they want a baby.

I understand the Quiverfull lifestyle requires frequent sex to attain, but that doesn't mean you have to like it.

sex is only for baby making. so wat happens when thecouples get older and are no longer to reproduce?

I was driving down the road one fine day and encountered a huge SUV with all of these things on it:

* a "Happiness is Being a Grandparent" license plate frame around a "MEMAW" vanity plate. ("Memaw" is one of the common Southern nicknames for a grandmother.)

* a "Let Me Tell You About My Grandchildren" bumper sticker on one side of the car, an "If I Knew How Much Fun Grandchildren Were I'd Have Had Them First" sticker on the other side.

* a stick-figure family that was all kids, with each of the (presumably) grandkids' names under the appropriate figure. Each little figure was holding some sort of sporting device - soccer balls, tennis rackets, baseball bats...

* the windows on the sides were decorated with cutouts of balls with numbers on them, and the names of children underneath. (Flying Spaghetti Monster help the grandchild of this woman who wasn't good at sports!)

The "let me tell you about my grandchildren" is somewhat popular up here and is REALLY popular in the South. It makes me want to print up a batch of "If you don't tell me about your grandchildren, I won't tell you about my penis piercing" stickers and hand 'em out at tattoo parlors.

You gotta keep trying. Can't let a little thing like age or increasingly awful pregnancy outcomes stop you.

Jim Bob always has a smile on his face.

without going against what they preach.

most normal people would be fine just having sex when they want without feeling they are doing anything wrong by not being married or anything else.

Where he marries Anna (the brunette in the photo from the article). You could tell how horny the two of them were.

Anna was also disappointed that she wasn't pregnant until 4 (ish?) months into her marriage.

do they really love each other or is it just "ants in the pants" (as my Grandma called it).

And what happens when the lust wears off and the realty of being tied to someone you never really got to know and now may not even like sets in? (I don't imagine these nuts believe in divorce.)

nt

unless you do it for very short periods to focus on Jesus. And you always have to want a baby, because a baby is god's stamp of approval on your marriage and the sign to your fellow believers that you're not sinning somehow.

They'll probably do it through a sheet.

It makes kids weird. They grow up saying crazy shit and not knowing it's crazy, because they have never moved outside of their parents circle.

I would rather marry a complete stranger...at least I'd have a chance of being married to a Lady that doesn't have the intelligence of a Squirrel.

Everything they do is subject to their husband's approval. He will tell her what gawd wants her to do.

and these backwoods hillbilliy men know exactly that they are doing

Although that home scholers corporation is proof why the religious right is not to be trusted.

train the wife to be the kind of wife he wants.

Why not? He seemed like a nice guy, he was and still is; does she think only
god people are honest and nice and have successful marriages?



Tikki

But it's at about almost exactly that point where I diverge from Anna and Priscilla.

But yet when choices are made not to our liking we have issues with it? Honestly it is their marriage. We don't have to live it. They do. Just surprising to see liberals upset and disgusted over marriage that is out of the ordinary.

dating/marriages that have nothing to do with god and are perfectly fine.
Why should she? No reason I can think of......except it is a truth and religion is all about the truth..


Tikki

pushing for legislation to restrict the Duggar's rights to believe in this nonsense.

Not sure why.

They are the ones being interviewed about it, we have the choice to comment on it.


Soooo, anyway, how much longer before the reveal? Did you Freudian slip on your title?

Your more special than all of us, we get it.

Since I am gay so maybe.

You replied so in this thread, you didn't like what people were saying so you let everyone know. None of us are above reproach, right?

Yes we do.

I would think we would be more forgiving for marriage outside the norm. I certainly can be wrong on that, but just seems like common sense to me.

But I could be wrong.

Thanks for the discussion. As always, I am still learning.

Cya in another thread!

We're just commenting on the Internet. For that matter, why are you commenting on a leftwing site about the political choices of others if you don't think people should take issue with anything that anyone does?

I'd have forwarded all the bills to God but I didn't have His address.

I'm pretty sure the Pope doesn't have it either.

The diocese was kind enough to lend us a church and a priest

Monetary gifts roughly equivalent to the cost of a similar secular venue were expected.

Apparently churches and priests are just another expense God doesn't pay for.

Who knew?

...with the florists and caterers and all that stuff too.

Pathetic.

Can't wait for their sex-advice book, in which they come right out and tell women not to try to enjoy sex too much.

And "Women that enjoy having sex are all whores."

I was married in a civil ceremony. Apparently, that's against god's will, too. I would mention that I still had to get a legal divorce, so someone considered me married.

I don't know why these people are so loved by the media.

Besides, what's not prideful about trying to tell other people how they should be living through their oh so sacred "relationship advice", TV show, political activities......................

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People have always been both fascinated and revulsed by deformities, but nowadays we are not allowed to admit that in public.

However in your own home you can watch people act out "deformed" relationships with the same emotional charge your great-grandparents got out of the Circus Freaks.

Seriously.

I agree. Rubber-necking the pile-up.

them well. Though the only fundie marriage of that sort I attended ended promptly when the bride, pampered baby sister to 5 brothers, didn't like the reality of actually walking the submissive, dutiful walk behind a less pampering husband.

Here in the Deep South, our most conservative neighbors are hard wired to the "strict father" model of political and community structure, though. They see everyone as needing strong authoritarian guidance (but not from liberal leaders -- and no wonder those come across as so weak and inadequate); appropriate deference and obedience to authority, including people of higher social status; and punishment as needed to keep them from misbehaving. Everyone, not just young women.

One bride's first ever kiss was after they said "I do." Very, very religious couple. They want a big family, will homeschool, etc. Seems like a very happy couple. It may not be for everyone, but, whatever.

Plato's Symposium.

Breaking Duggar!

They are pretty much the same, just opposite extremes.

Will make absolutely no difference in my life.

Any girls being "fed this bullshit" must not have any parents supervising them.

Your scorn of this discussion is duly noted. You do know you have the option to trash- and remain silent? Good options, when you actually don't give a shit, and are not trying to antagonize those who do! HTH.

Don't like what I post, don't respond to it. Or take your own advice and trash the thread. I'm certainly not going to take your advice.

to your hearts content. LOL.

Aren't they women by 25?

It's wrong that they (and the world) are fed this crap but I was an open atheist in a Catholic family by 22.

I see no reason why these grown women can't brush this religious indoctrination off like a mosquito if they wanted.

and good for you and your atheism. I wish everyone was as hard headed and resistant to pressure as I am too.
But I do understand that many people are not.

weddings in heaven. I told here that was totally stupid and she freaked out and went running to one of her relatives crying.

Why do people watch this show?

you get out the popcorn and stare open mouthed at what is going on.

Her first husband would slam her against a wall when she didn't "obey". No way in the world either of us would have allowed that creepy admonition into our wedding vows.

I've been to a few fundy weddings. Over and above all the Jesus talk and the wife "submitting" to the husband, I just can't get past the excruciating banality of evangelical prayer:

"Dear God...we just...just...just...thank You and praise You and....just...just...praise You and thank You...cuz...You're just...y'know... like...so totally awesome and stuff..."

God can have my wedding day if that is the only day he wants. I get to be a heathen on all the rest! woo! Party time!

Awaiting her heavenly bridegroom. Nuns wear wedding rings.

Sung by Dame Janet Baker:

liberal atheists, some of them are bound to be gay too

I am sick to death of them and khate gosselin and the kartrashians

UP YOURS!!!!