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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:25 AM Oct 2014

Spanish nurse’s Ebola infection blamed on substandard equipment

Staff at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital say protective suits do not meet WHO standards as second nurse undergoes tests for virus

Health professionals in Madrid have blamed substandard equipment and a failure to follow protocol for the first case of Ebola to be contracted outside west Africa.

Health authorities announced on Monday that a Spanish nurse at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital who treated a patient repatriated from Sierra Leone had twice tested positive for Ebola.

Her husband had also been admitted to hospital and was in isolation, and a second nurse from the same team that treated both repatriated Ebola victims was also being tested. In this case, the nurse contacted the authorities on Monday complaining of a fever. She was in isolation in the Carlos III Hospital while authorities waited for the test results, a spokesperson for the Madrid regional government said.

Staff at the hospital told El País that the protective suits they were given did not meet World Health Organisation standards, which specify that suits must be impermeable and include breathing apparatus. Staff also pointed to latex gloves secured with adhesive tape as an example of how the suits were not impermeable and noted that they did not have their own breathing equipment.

The nurse was part of a team attending to missionary Manuel García Viejo, 69, who died four days after being brought to Madrid’s Carlos III hospital on 20 September. The same team, including the nurse, also treated missionary Miguel Pajares, 75, who was repatriated from Liberia in August and died five days later.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain

WTH! Waste from the rooms of both patients was carried out in the same elevator used by all of the personnel

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Spanish nurse’s Ebola infection blamed on substandard equipment (Original Post) Little Star Oct 2014 OP
With all the austerity-forced cuts in health care spending . . . another_liberal Oct 2014 #1
+1 deutsey Oct 2014 #2
What's the deal with the 'Breathing Equipment'? Octafish Oct 2014 #3
carrying patients' waste on an elevator w/o proper containment has to be the answer CTyankee Oct 2014 #5
Thanks! Octafish Oct 2014 #9
Guess what.... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #14
I sill want to know how cwydro Oct 2014 #4
splashback while spraying a car with disinfectant. magical thyme Oct 2014 #8
Here's an ABC link to his thoughts on how he caught ebola herding cats Oct 2014 #12
modern healthcare not so modern dembotoz Oct 2014 #6
And this hospital was "specially selected City Lights Oct 2014 #7
"Move along. We got this. Nothing to see here. First world countries know what to do. valerief Oct 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author boomer55 Oct 2014 #11
that last sentence is the most frightening one of the whole article. dang... boomer55 Oct 2014 #13
Proof yet again that it's best to start with the simplest explanation rocktivity Oct 2014 #15
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
1. With all the austerity-forced cuts in health care spending . . .
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:49 AM
Oct 2014

I'm surprised the Spanish are doing as well as they are.

That banker-run government they're saddled with needs a swift kick out the door!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. What's the deal with the 'Breathing Equipment'?
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oct 2014

I was assured by more than a couple of DUers that ebola was not spread through the air.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. carrying patients' waste on an elevator w/o proper containment has to be the answer
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:54 AM
Oct 2014

here. Just the thought of it is sickening...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Thanks!
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

I worked as an ER and OR orderly in the 70s. It is disheartening to know that we are not approaching the ebola crisis with all the resources at our disposal and all the medicine and science we've learned since then.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. Guess what....
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:55 PM
Oct 2014
Experts on disease transmission: Ebola may be spread through the air. Respirators ARE necessary.

We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025632558

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
12. Here's an ABC link to his thoughts on how he caught ebola
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:22 PM
Oct 2014
US Journalist Believes He Got Ebola While Cleaning Infected Car

The American journalist with Ebola who arrived at a Nebraska hospital today believes that he may have gotten infected when he got splashed while spray-washing a vehicle where someone had died from the disease.

Ashoka Mukpo arrived at the Nebraska Medical Center this morning after being flown directly from Liberia.

“He's strong and his symptoms are not more advanced then when he talked to us before he left which is a relief,” his father Dr. Mitchell Levy said at a news conference today. He said his son has a fever and slight nausea.

"Likely he will go into the next phase where his symptoms will be more severe," Levy said.

Levy said that his son is “not certain” when he got the disease, but believes that he could have gotten infected by some of the spray back that came when he was using chlorine to disinfect a car.

"It was a vehicle that somebody had died in," Levy said.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. "Move along. We got this. Nothing to see here. First world countries know what to do.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:14 PM
Oct 2014

We've done this before. We've got our prayer groups in escalation mode and folks are using the stairs. Don't go loco."

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rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
15. Proof yet again that it's best to start with the simplest explanation
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 02:42 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:36 PM - Edit history (5)

Instead of starting with "OMG -- Here's proof that the virus is airborne!!!!1!", start with "We know that the virus is spread by contacting a patient's bodily fluids, and we know that this nurse has had contact with two Ebola patients. Despite the precautions that she took, the nurse must have contacted the patients' bodily fluids SOMEHOW." Sanity accomplished!


rocktivity

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