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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsbrewer's AZ bill and "menopause babies".
This is what happens when legislation isn't based on science.
As I understand the new law, the gestational age of the fetus is counting back to the last menstrual cycle of the woman. Is that correct?
Now, read and think about this:
During the time when the female body is not having a menstrual cycle, the body may still be releasing those last few eggs. If the egg is released and there is a viable sperm waiting to fertilize the egg, the female can, and will, get pregnant.
Thanks to the lack of a normal menstrual cycle, the female may not notice they are pregnant until they are months into the pregnancy. There have even been cases where mothers of climbing age have gone to the hospital with stomach and back pains only to leave the hospital a few days later with a baby in their arms.
From this link: http://www.babymed.com/gettting-pregnant-during-menopause
"A year between having one period and the next"
Based on an exceptional case, it is conceivable (pun intended) that the gestational age of the fetus - based on the AZ law - would make what would normally be a 16-week pregnancy (~4 months) into a 16 month pregnancy? I wonder how many 21-month-old babies will be born in AZ in the coming months and years? *sigh*
elleng
(131,174 posts)Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)of having a baby born at 21-months.
Insurance premiums? Social security numbers, benefits and Medicare eligibility, etc.? The draft, school age...
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Any one worth his or her salt would have told these law making fools that they were full of it.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)who would be aware of "menopause babies" and other such fun facts about menstrual cycles, pregnancy, and all those other "icky" girl things.
I truly miss a country that talked of going to the moon rather than spelunking in my uterus.
1monster
(11,012 posts)her menses every month. She went in for her annual (on edit) check up and was told, much to her surprise, that she was five months pregnant.
(I've heard of many women who have continued their periods for a few monts after becoming pregnant. How is Arizona gonna deal with that kind of situation? Inquiring minds want to know.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)Can you imagine? Her cycle continues and so she's pregnancy minus x-months pregnant?
My head hurts.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)They will fan out in neighborhoods, examining and collecting used pads/tampons, depositing them into dated ziploc baggies & stored for future reference in case a pregnancy occurs. females will probably be required to sign & date a monthly document.
Who knows? Maybe there will be PSA announcements on TV...a la the old cigarette ads.. "Show us your..."
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)perpetual-pregnancy monitor with color-coded warnings like our national security warnings.
Yellow: thinking about getting preggers
Orange: actually having sex!
Red: the sperm is in "the building"!!! REPEAT!!! The sperm is IN "THE BUILDING"!!!!
Or whatever. My sense of humor is rather impaired about this topic.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)marybourg
(12,639 posts)when that happened to me. Conceived 4 months after last period. Much confusion which could have turned into a nightmare had this been an unwanted or troubled pregnancy in the land where legislators are playing amateur gynecologist. But these guys wouldn't be in office if WOMEN weren't voting for them.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)it would be mostly repubs who are elected.
It's women who elect Democrats. (speaking in generalities for brevity not for inclusion of all).
Yeah, there are women who vote repub; mostly white and mostly married, but generally speaking, women lean Democratic. It's more complex than that but that's the general idea.
marybourg
(12,639 posts)and since some (many) men vote democratic, it' s clear that those turds would not be in office if ( some large percentage, but probably less than half) of WOMEN didn't vote for them. I said nothing about women NOT voting.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Never got my period. At 3 months she got a cold and didn't nurse as much for a week. I got a tiny bit of staining that month. My check up was only a week after that. When my doctor examined me, he asked if my periods had returned. I said no, except for the straining. He said from his exam, he thought I might have conceived but with the breastfeeding and no normal return of periods, the embryo probably could not implant. So, breastfeeding probably "killed a baby", while feeding another.
On menopause. it can take YEARS to fully finish. For me it took about 3 years before anything resembling a period stopped. Fortunately, my husband had a vasectomy long before so it didn't matter for me. My Aunt had a "change of life" pregnancy at 48 and she aborted it, even when it was illegal. Both she, and her husband, did not want a child younger than their grandchild.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)Yet another "exception" to the new rule.
I am absolutely gob-smacked that there are laws being passed based on "religious" belief.
Iris
(15,671 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 14, 2012, 09:13 PM - Edit history (1)
only 2nd to teenagers.
Arizona - what a shit hole
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)I have family in AZ. Some of the people I've met there were okay. Others...then there are the others.
Iris
(15,671 posts)Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)It's become so bad there for her, she comes here for vacations now rather than us going there. It's even affected her step-dad, a 60s hippie, who is getting caught up in the authoritarian mind-set. Just ugly. Horrifically ugly in a land that can be quite beautiful with sunsets "to die for."
Iris
(15,671 posts)I mean, Arizona is one of those places people could go to "reinvent" themselves b/c everything was so new so why is it going backwards?
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)I don't know. My relationship with AZ is only about 7 years old. It was pretty messed up by the time I started having anything to do with it.
Her brother says it's the influx of people from around the US. He's more of a cynic than I. We're both of the opinion it has a lot to do with the 'sun chasers.' I'm native Nevadan. It's much the same as what has happened here.
Sort of like the 'idiocy' existed elsewhere has expanded and moved southwest. Meh, maybe they can't take the heat.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)it's ridiculous to claim someone is pregnant before she's pregnant. That has to be one of the stupidest bits of legislation I have ever seen.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)I guess I've gone full-on cynical rather than just nominally a pain-in-the-ass kind of cynical.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)between "all is lost" and "maybe today someone will do something legislatively in this nation that doesn't smell like Scalia's ass."
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)However, that visual you just gave me, has me looking for the bunny with the cheese grater to get the image out of my mind's eye!
LOL
Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)women with polycystic ovary syndrome who become pregnant will have the same problem. It probably happened to Kate Gosselin.
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)Thank you, greymattermom.
By the way, intriguing name and sig-line.