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SUNDAY'S DOONESBURY: "So Where You Calling From?" (Original Post) Hissyspit Apr 2012 OP
It's sad, how our military folks are so often taken for granted... JFN1 Apr 2012 #1
Taken for granted by whom? SydBAThule Apr 2012 #2
By family and friends... JFN1 Apr 2012 #4
Veterinarian or veteran? Robb Apr 2012 #9
I was talking to a soldier in a bar outside of Fort Bragg. Hissyspit Apr 2012 #3
What do you mean? Doctor_J Apr 2012 #10
Time to bring them home. baldguy Apr 2012 #5
Absolutely. JFN1 Apr 2012 #6
Long, long past actually. Hissyspit Apr 2012 #7
Rachel's first book is about this 90-percent Apr 2012 #8
"It's also extremely unprecedented in American history, " dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #11
K&R! countryjake Apr 2012 #12

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
1. It's sad, how our military folks are so often taken for granted...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:15 AM
Apr 2012

I've been in Mel's shoes before...f'n sucks, it does...

K&R...

 

SydBAThule

(25 posts)
2. Taken for granted by whom?
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:26 AM
Apr 2012

Unless you were drafted into the US Military you did volunteer for the job.

Our Corporations and Government are taking advantage of the military so the same attitude is being reflected by the people.

Do you need some kind of recognition for your service or something?


BTW I am a vet myself.

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
4. By family and friends...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:39 AM
Apr 2012

who so often take for granted the fact you are a long way from home, lonely, homesick, and in need of the moral boost only a letter from home or a phone call can give. Sometimes it seems like they forget where you are and what you're doing - probably a form of emotional compensation for the fact you may be in danger...but even if so, it still sucks to feel forgotten by your loved ones.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
3. I was talking to a soldier in a bar outside of Fort Bragg.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:27 AM
Apr 2012

He was complaining how Americans had forgotten about them in Afghanistan. I said "I haven't forgotten."

This was in 2005.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. What do you mean?
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:58 AM
Apr 2012

At almost every sporting event there's a vet in uniform standing next to the person singing the National Anthem. You want more, like jobs, health care, ...?

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
6. Absolutely.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:51 AM
Apr 2012

There is nothing to win (if there ever was), and no point to further continuation...well, except all those corporate profits...

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
8. Rachel's first book is about this
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:10 AM
Apr 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/books/review/drift-by-rachel-maddow.html?_r=1

The current state of American War conduct kind of reminds me of an original Star Trek episode where there were two planets at perpetual war. Each side would march the required victim count into the death chamber. Made it invisible.

Captain Kirk advised them to do it the old fashioned way - hand to hand combat by the masses. Get the war up close and inconvenient for all. That will stop it quick!

I am utterly amazed by people like Santorum, that denigrate Obama for being ANTI-WAR. Well, if you're a decent educated compassionate human being, it's a moral imperative to be anti war. duhhhhh.

War as just another instrument in the foreign policy tool bag is obscene.

Our World Leaders opening debating nuking Iran is also obscene. In these times We the People must fear our leaders. They're stupid venal aggressive idiots that like to shoot first and ask questions later - WITH FUCKING NUCLEAR BOMBS!

WAR IS HELL. Seek out any veteran of the last ten years. They'll be able to tell you how much it sucks. Two recent examples in my life I didn't exactlyu have to hunt down to find out about -a votec kid at work has a cousin messed up from having to kill a little girl that came after his platoon with bombs strapped to her chest. I know another woman that has a boyfriend that flipped his Humvee and lost his long term memory. Permanent Ground Hog's Day for the poor guy. Hell on earth, pure and simple.

Not to mention multiple deployments. That's treating our brave volunteers like animals! It's also extremely unprecedented in American history, except perhaps the Civil and Revolutionary Wars?

Is it true that there's soldiers out there that have had twelve deployments to our war zones? Simple mathematical probabilities make that a suicide mission!

-90% Jimmy

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. "It's also extremely unprecedented in American history, "
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
Apr 2012

Both World Wars also kept men "deployed" for the duration of the wars, I do believe.

Not condoning it, just saying...
and not minimizing your comments at all.

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