... that the '70s would someday be "the good old days". At the time it seemed like there was a lot left to improve, and that improvements would be made. In some ways things are better now, but in others we've lost ground.

Now we are getting push back. Domineering type men are upset that they don't have someone to wait on them hand and foot.

before Ronald Reagan and the mantra that gov't is the problem, before the 4th estate was completely co-opted by the mutinationals and became propaganda machine it is today, before FOX, before 24/7 infotainment, before global warming became REAL, before, before, before.

At the time we thought Nixon was the devil incarnate... yet how much better he looks in retrospect.

Yes, we have gained a lot, but we have lost a lot as well and frankly, this country is on a downward spiral.

back when a "small car" was a V6 ... and unions had some clout ...

Reagan fired PATCO... and it became open season on unions.

Finally how working stiffs love themselves some Reagan. Shows you the power of an amiable dunce, media propagandizers and diversionary issues like welfare queens, abortion, flag burning, etc!

made me realize how long women have had a legal right to choose. It makes the current fervor for taking that right away even more aggregious. How can we go back? While I am past the child bearing years, I worry about young women who may need to make this difficult choice, but will have to face untold obstacles and judgements to remain in control of their bodies and their lives.

I just can't believe we are where we are on this issue in 2012..........

children using a reversible form of birth control; there's always the possibility she may change her mind in 10 or 15 years. But I think that for an older woman who has decided she has borne the children she wants, the responsible thing to do is to either have her tubes tied and/or if she is in a table relationship for her partner to have a vasectomy.

but there's no way we can afford it. it's not a matter of being responsible, it's a matter of being broke.

SoCalDem Donating Member Sun Nov-08-09 05:27 AM
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In 1968, five teenage college freshmen (myself included) came up with $600 for an illegal abortion for my roommate..she had to go to Nebraska .. We sold everything we could get our hands on, begged money from our parents, cleaned apartmentd, etc.

we were at University of Kansas... this was when she was 4 month along..

she came back..still pregnant

then we had to come up with $700 ..this time she went to Oklahoma and at 5 months & 1 wk she had the abortion.

she almost died, but did not go to the doctor.. we were her doctor..pooling what antibiotics we could scramble for her (there were not many drugs back then) we scrounged meds from everyone for her, and took turns cutting classes to watch her..

her boyfriend and his friends helped raise money too..and she went on to marry the guy (they've been married since 1970, and have 5 girls..the baby they aborted was a boy ..