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© Jason Reed / Reuters
10/15/14 04:54 PMUPDATED 10/15/14 06:48 PM
Ellie Sandmeyer explained yesterday:
Fox personalities repeatedly worked to cast doubt on Dr. Vivek Murthys nomination, questioning his strong qualifications and smearing him as too political for the job. In March, network host Brian Kilmeade alleged that Murthy hasnt done much in his career yet, and argued that you want to be impressed with a Surgeon General nominees resume. [ ]
In addition to questioning Murthys qualifications, Fox has also worked to baselessly politicize Murthys position that gun violence should be considered a public health issue. Fox & Friends co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck falsely claimed that Murthy views gun ownership as a disease and forwarded claims that he has a radical agenda when it comes to guns and your health. Network legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr. suggested Murthy would make the examining room about about party registration or about gun registration, and Fox host Megyn Kelly claimed that Murthy is not a big fan of the Second Amendment, and said he is so anti-gun that the NRA has decided to score this vote.
So when a Fox host complains that politics is leading to a vacancy in the Surgeon Generals office, the natural follow-up question is, Yes, and exactly whose politics might be responsible for this result?
As Rachel noted on the show last night, the public would benefit from having a qualified medical professional focused specifically on helping Americans better understand these complex medical questions. Too bad thats apparently not a politically viable option right now.
Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/surgeon-general-nominee-tied-politics
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)for the avid President Obama followers, "do you condemn the Big Dogs for not supporting the president?"
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)by the NRA terror tactics values their personall job more than their personal values.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)reason. They are choosing to side with Republicans.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)Sadly you wish to make a joke about this President and those that "avidly"support him.
Per chance you have a comment about the OP? Nope, ya just dropped in to snark. And don't gloss your question over with the smiley emoticons.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)nomination. I often "condemn" the Blue Dogs for just this type of thing and I get confused by those that support the Blue Dogs and the President. There seems to be a conundrum. We know the Republicans are obstructionists but the Democrats theoretically control the Senate. But apparently Democrats that support the President don't have control of the Senate.
I wasn't at all trying to make a joke. And what is this, "And don't gloss your question over with the smiley emoticons." I always try to keep it friendly and end with a smile. And it's Halloween.
And thanks for the explanation, Rhett.
Believing that this President has made huge strides in the most adverse conditions imaginable does not make one a Blue Dog. No, I don't support them and never have. Yes I do support this President. Sadly those that do are trashed endlessly here on a Democratic board.
Well it may be Halloween here, yet where I work Christmas hit the floor on 10/6. I know I know
So again, I thank you for responding to me, Rhett.
Peace~ to you and yours.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)are in tough spots sometimes. I get anxious for change. I believe that if we don't make some big strides soon, we may get beyond a tipping point, if we aren't already. In another thread I posted this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5675918. I am afraid the truth is too bad to handle. Those that don't want progressives to win have unlimited resources and I believe will they will go to any lengths. This doesn't mean I won't continue to fight but I'm getting old and I want to see change before I go. I am an old Baby Boomer and I blame my generation for dropping the ball. My parents knew the hell of the First Great Republican Depression and tried to warn us. But we had it easy and let our guards down. We enjoyed the American Dream but our children aren't. I see HRC as part of the system that got us here. We need radical change and HRC isn't the candidate. But as Sen Sanders points out, a progressive candidate would risk great harm to self and family. Be hard to find someone willing to do that.
SunSeeker
(51,724 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Do we really need another symbolic political appointee? What we need is a good leader with experience in public health emergancies to make sure we are up to date. Antibiotic resistant diseases are becoming a crisis as well.
Most people do not know that the younger the mother is the more likely she will suffer sterility later if she has an abortion. Studies in Canada indicate that sterility is as high as thirty percent among women fifteen to seventeen years old who have had abortions . .
Protection of the life of the mother as an excuse for an abortion is a smoke screen. In my thirty-six years in pediatric surgery I have never known of one instance where the child had to be be aborted to save the mother's life.
C. Everett Koop, M. D., as told to Dick Bohrer, in "Moody Monthly," May, 1980
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)Career
Murthy is a physician at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston and a Hospitalist Attending Physician and Instructor in Medicine at Harvard Medical School.[9] He is also a founder and president of Doctors for America, a group of 15,000 physicians and medical students supporting Obama.[10][11] In 2011, Murthy was appointed by U.S. President Barack Obama to serve on the U.S. Presidential Advisory Council on Prevention, Health Promotion, and Integrative and Public Health within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.[9] The group advises the National Prevention Council on developing strategies and partnerships to advance the nation's health.[12]
He is co-founder and chairman of TrialNetworks, a cloud-based Clinical Trial Optimization System for pharmaceutical and biotechnology trials that improves the quality and efficiency of clinical trials to bring new drugs to market faster and more safely.[13][14] He founded the company as Epernicus in 2008 to originally be a collaborative networking web platform for scientists to boost research productivity.[15] Since 1995, he has also worked in H.I.V. prevention and AIDS education, co-founding and serving as president and chairman of a non-profit organization, Visions Worldwide, focused on that mission in the U.S and in India.[10] He has been a prominent supporter of Obama's healthcare law.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Murthy
Doctors for America
"Doctors for America" is a national movement of physicians and medical students in the United States with a stated goal of improving affordable health care access. The movement was started in 2008 as "Doctors for Obama" and rapidly grew to 10,000 members within a few months.[1]
The group stated that it had a membership of 15,000 and a presence in all 50 states in September 2009.[citation needed] The "four policy pillars" of the organization are expanding health insurance to all Americans; ensuring high-quality 21st-century care; expanding access to care; and improving practice environments for physicians in order to help them focus on improving patient care. The organization partnered with the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Medical Student Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Osteopathic Association, and other organizations to promote health reform legislation in Congress to issue an July 30, 2009 open letter to all members of Congress publicly announcing their support for health reform legislation.[2]
Some commentators stated that this large coalition of doctors (the organizations collectively represented nearly 450,000) provided an important counterweight to the American Medical Association's organization's initial opposition to health reform in 2009;[3] later AMA statements supported health reform in principle.[4][5]
Doctors for America also organized a website, Voices of Physicians (www.voicesofphysicians.org), which allowed physicians to publicize their frustrations with the current health system and their recommendations for improvement,[6] and organized house meetings of physicians across the country to talk about health reform,[7] and interactive web talks with figures such as Jacob Hacker and Howard Dean,[8] and participated in White House meetings on health reform.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors_for_America
Would you please add a link to your post, thank you.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)political forces.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)United States always has been.
political forces.
Nomination for Surgeon General
[Murthy] has come under attack for his relative youth, his support for an assault weapons ban and a Twitter posting in October 2012 when he wrote, "Guns are a health care issue." [...] The White House is still conferring with Senate Democrats on how to advance Murthy's nomination, including possibly postponing a vote until after the November [2014] midterms.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Murthy
So he is against assault weapons...as a DR, I sure would hope so, yet you say that makes him unacceptable?
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)over the nuts and bolts of public health administration. It is literally a ceremonial post bound by tradition. It's a distraction. Besides take a look at why Senate hasn't moved forward... think it's all the Republicans fault? Only if you consider Blue Dogs Republicans which I would argue is a charitable at best.
Third, I didn't say Murty is unacceptable. He is very acceptable. I just think competence at CDC is more important problem to solve right now, and a Surgeon General would most definitely not solve that problem, unless we need someone to clean up the mess every time CDC's Freiden opens his mouth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/us/senate-balks-at-obama-pick-for-surgeon-general.html?_r=0
That's right, Democrats oppose Murthy's view on guns, therefore we have no confirmed Surgeon General.
Cha
(297,693 posts)love you Cha~
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)has less power than other cabinet posts, but it has power, including the power of persuasion backed by holding of the Office.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)political circumstances. Hard to imagine the SG doing any better.
The SG has less power than the head of CDC. In recent decades the SG has made the most impact for the right wingers who appoint pro-life extremists who don't believe in evolution. The reason they can be so politically outspoken is that their jobs don't require tactical nor strategic planning, organizing etc. They are simply there to tell us to eat right and go to church.
Freiden should be fired and immediately replaced with someone more effective in areas of public health emergencies. Obama can make an executive appointment. It is well within his authority and moral boundaries to do so.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)After all, C. Everett Koop was a dickhead.
Cha
(297,693 posts)sheshe2
(83,925 posts)No wonder they hate him, Cha!
Yes the NR'effing'A don't like him. Boo effing Hoo!
thanks!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)sheshe2
(83,925 posts)I would do a facepalm, yet I am far to bruised from their stupidity!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)and I'm boggled
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The senate is not a rubber stamp. If they reject this guy, why hasnt Obama nominated somebody else?
Also, I dont think a single republican has voted against the SG, because there has not been a formal vote on him.
Cha
(297,693 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)It's not politics as we used to know it.
The Republicans have all gone to one side of the room, and they are NOT even talking to the Democrats, unless they have to.
There is no compromising with these lunatics!!!
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Their entire agenda is racist.
That's all there is to it.
sheshe2
(83,925 posts)The GOP is now and forever bought, lock stock and barrel by the Kochs. To them there is no longer a United States of America, it is The Koch Oligarchy of America. Their motto Money and Power for me and Screw Thee!
So sad, Major~
Cha
(297,693 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . is gone now.)
Mission Accomplished!
Because he did what he intended to do -- show a massive amount of disrespect to President Obama!
Just so, he could wear that fact like a flag pin, wear it around for the rest of his life and pretend it was a badge of honor!
At no time in the last 6 years have the Republicans cooperated with President Obama.
He has had to wrench their arms behind their back just to get them to talk to other Democrats, the ones in the House, and those in the Senate.
We need a new Congress -- one that will work WITH President Obama.
I feel the urge to purge all of the racist, scumbag Republicans out of office this year.
The Republicans don't stand up and fight for the rights of people, they only fight for corporations.
Like when Governor Haley of South Carolina said last week that none of the CEO's that she has talked to has complained about the Confederate flag that she flies above the statehouse there in South Carolina.
What the fu*k is wrong with her?
Doesn't she realize that we can hear her say stupid shit like that??
Cha
(297,693 posts)got the long knives out on Jan 20, 2009..
I'll post this here, too..
Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan & Kevin McCarthy: Plot To Sabotage US Economy with Frank Luntz
On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich
During the four hour meeting:
The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.
These Republican members of Congress were not simply airing their complaints regarding the other party's political platform for four long hours. No, these Republican Congressional Policymakers, who were elected to do 'the People's work' were literally plotting to sabotage, undermine and destroy the U.S. Economy.
MOre..
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/08/1098434/-Eric-Cantor-Paul-Ryan-Kevin-McCarthy-Plot-To-Sabotage-US-Economy-with-Frank-Luntz
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)I find this blame shifting to Fox News rather bizarre. They say stupid shit all the time, but they don't control the Senate calendar.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)tritsofme
(17,399 posts)After the nuclear option was implemented, cloture can be invoked with 50+1 votes.