Been hoping for a bit of good news for you.

The dog is alive.
It's the nurse in Spain whose dog was killed.

It is not up to CNN. What does that network think they will accomplish with this one? Are they hoping to create an outraged mob determined to kill a dog? There is so much news in this world, why focus on this non issue? Our government has already decided how to deal with this brave nurse's dog, are we going to get political about this too? Good grief.

Is the dog a danger to someone?

Compassion has nothing to do with it.

Edit: A study has found that dogs can be carriers of Ebola while remaining asymptomatic and may represent a potential primary or secondary source of human infection, see here: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/3/pdfs/04-0981.pdf

that it may be necessary to put down her dog because of the chance that dogs can be carriers of Ebola.

You don't know what you are talking about.
Her dog is being monitored by vets.

Dog is being monitored by a vet.
Nobody is planning to put it down.
Dogs don't get sick from Ebola.

Pets are family to many people.

We can stop the infection in its tracks by putting down humans that come in contact with Ebola patients.
We don't do that for some reason.
Although there is a lot more risk of transmitting Ebola from an infected human than a dog.

humans develop Ebola haemorrhagic fever and either die, or get better. If they get better, they should be immune from reinfection. Dogs are asymptomatic carriers. (Which means they don't get sick from it but can transmit it.) The virus in humans can be contained by quarantine and appropriate measures (as it has been in previous outbreaks of Ebola virus; the lack of a coordinated public health response on the ground in the most-affected areas of Africa is the reason this outbreak is so severe in some places but not in others which have effectively contained the disease through strict quarantine and monitoring).

What is your point?

situation that we can learn from and decide how to address in the future. ITM, this one dog's been secured and a promise to keep it that way has been given...

and they are keeping the dog and at the same time studying it which is much better than putting it down.
http://www.promedmail.org/ you have to scroll down the left side to find articles.
Texas A&M specialists advising on care of Ebola patient's dog
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The dean of the Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine and
Biomedical Sciences said Wednesday [15 Oct 2014] that A&M specialists
are helping to monitor Bentley, the year-old King Charles Spaniel
owned by the 26-year-old Dallas nurse who has been hospitalized with
the Ebola virus, and will develop plans for handling Ebola-exposed
animals in the future.
snip
There have been no reports of dogs who have shown signs of Ebola or
animals who have transmitted Ebola, but because Bentley is the 1st dog
exposed to the virus in the United States, vets are working with
extreme caution and treating him as if he were infected.

"We're going to treat him with exactly the same methodology that we
would with the people in a hospital with a biocontained area with
personal protective equipment and the same manner they would handle an
infected human patient," she said. "Therefore, we can assure the
public is not at risk and we can assure Bentley is taken care of in a
humane way."
snip

"We want to make sure Bentley is well taken care of and that people
have the confidence that if they are exposed to Ebola or show clinical
signs of Ebola that they will self-report early knowing they will not
be putting their household at risk," she said.

Green remained adamant that the public needs to know it is highly
unlikely that dogs will be at risk of transmitting the virus and that
the Texas A&M veterinarians are using this situation to learn as much
as they can about transmission and containment.

"There's a lot of unanswered questions," Green said. "Our job now is
to answer them."

it said that Texas A&M vets were taking over the care and were using a metabolic dog cage to keep staff interactions to a minimum. I had to look up what that is and it contains the urine & feces so that Bentley doesn't have to be removed from his cage to take care of "business".

but also great to hear that the dog is being treated and handled well. I'm sure they are going to have to hold on to him for a period of time to observe him and do blood work. It's not fair for the dog, but if his health is fine and is reunited with her it will be a happy ending.

determined before killing it?

There was a report yesterday that showed him playing with someone in full protective garb. Apparently, he has a bunch of new toys. I'm sure that he would rather be with his mistress, though.

He will get blood tests to assure that he isn't a carrier during and at the end of his quarantine.

CNN is nuts to say anything else.

It looked almost like a farm. So, the dog is isolated from other animals, yet it looks like it has a good space.

(Believe it or not I saw this on Fox News while I was at the gym)

And the reporter said the cleaning guys who cleaned her apartment are caring for the dog.

if it bleeds, it leads. So to speak.

I had no idea that dogs could be asymptomatic carriers of the virus. Now I know. It certainly makes a difference because there are dumb people out there who, if a neighbor was hauled away with ebola, might well take in her dog thinking that the dog couldn't transmit it.

Now, if you're asking whether that information ought to have been offered in some other, less sensational fashion...would it have made an impact on dumb Americas who'd take in such a dog if it had been offered that way?

And let's not be so sure that the patient is watching CNN or any other news media. Frankly, if I were in the hospital with ebola, and not so sick that I *could* watch the news, I likely wouldn't because I'd know that *I* would be the topic on a lot of channels and I really wouldn't want to hear whatever they were saying about me, period. Let alone what they were saying about my dog.

So. Not compassionate? Absolutely right. Crass and stupid? Probably. Pointless? I wouldn't go so far as that.

The dog is not being taken care of by cleaning guys.

"The Dallas Animal Services and Adoption Center is caring for Bently while Pham is in the hospital."


http://abc7news.com/health/workers-caring-for-phams-dog-snap-pics-of-animal-playing/355703/

Sorry if I provided any wrong info.

The dog is monitored by Dallas Animal Services and Adoption Center and has a Texas A&M vet team monitoring him.

at the hospital.

who could then be a passive carrier and infect other people (and dogs).

I would guess that as people said up front, there are tests that can determine if the dog is carrying the virus. If it is, there may be no sensible choice other than killing the dog - tough as that is. However, they would not have committed the resources they did to safely care for the dog if it was certain that he was a carrier.

I hate to see this happen.

they'll look for ebola antigen to see if virus is present and antigen to see if Bently mounted an immune response.

Could you explain what circumstances are good in this case. (Obviously no virus has to be good. )

What if he has both. Does that mean that keep him isolated longer to see if the virus disappears as he fights it?

they just need to repeat check until the tests show no virus.

The articles and summaries I've seen of the limited research that was done when dogs were found that had eaten corpses talked about the antibody levels found, but never actually confirmed viral antigen was found in those dogs.

So I found that confusing because they were claiming the 24 dogs they found had asymptomatic infections, but presence of antibodies would indicate their bodies successfully fought those infections.

But the summary was behind a paywall, and I'm not willing to go that far for a single study.

I doubt he has it, to be honest. He wasn't eating corpses, and I doubt his human gave him her body fluids.

I'll look in my school database and see if I can access it.

re: what I read regarding the sole dog study, which someone posted a link to here on DU over the past week, my memory re: what I've read about how they are testing for Ebola sometime in the last 2 weeks.

They could also use PCR testing to confirm the presence of Ebola DNA, which iirc would be more sensitive than antigen/antibody testing. But I remember them as using antigen/antibody.

"Neither Ebola virus antigens nor nucleotide sequences
were detected in any of the positive or negative dog blood
samples. We also failed to isolate the virus from 3 positive
and 3 negative samples on VeroE6 cells."

They found dogs with Ebola-specific IgG,but not one of the dogs had circulating virus.

and this:

"...indicating either true infection or simple antigenic stimulation."

Either the dogs were infected and cleared the infections on their own, or the virus was unable to infect and was cleared.

Either way, all they need to do is test and determine that there is no circulating antigen and Bently will be fine. Fuck, he could come live with me, but my Luna hates all other dogs than my Jake.

I just googled it and found a better link than the one I had followed before. Lots more info. I'm too buzzed to read it right now. Lots more info though. Also lots more dogs that the summary I'd read before. That one specified 24 dogs. This is more than 24 dogs...

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/3/pdfs/04-0981.pdf

The life sciences stuff is way beyond what I can understand. I've always been more interested and did better with the social sciences. My grandfather was a physicist and I had a tough time understanding and appreciating that field as well (and in fact kind of ironically he was not very good on the business side of things when it came to the things he was involved in).

with my head somewhere in outer or inner space, lol.

because they won't be able to go back in time to do so if at some point the dog's blood tests positive. It could provide valuable information about TIMING of shedding if it occurs, in relation to changes in the blood.

Would be a shame to overlook something like that. I hope the dog isn't put down. That poor nurse.

It would be great if they can get some information about how animals are affected and still reunite him with his owner when she gets better.

Said "I wouldn't want that dog pooping in my yard." But then also admitted there is no direct evidence that dogs spread ebola. Rat bastard.

Of course it would be irresponsible to let the dog run free, but he is monitored under quarantine (way more strict than more exposed people are under). WTF are these people even talking about?

His position, just like Spain's, is kill the pets "just in case."

Or even standing there, to be honest, but they sure descend like vultures (I really hate to insult vultures this way, but I cannot think of another term after just waking up) anytime they think they can harp on something for weeks on end.

I hope they treat the woman's dog humanely until she is better then return her dog to her. Taking a person's beloved pet away and killing that pet should be a felony, imo, especially in this case, where there have been no known transmissions of Ebola from dogs to people.

MSM are just a bunch of bored rich kids trying to think of the meanest stuff to talk about. The are the equivalent of a bunch of 9 year old boys who start a "No Girls Allowed" club somewhere in the woods, then pull the wings off of birds and torture animals to try to hone their craft of getting an emotional reaction out of the girls they hate so much. The sick bastards.

Lock MSM in a padded room and take away their microphones and America can become a normal country. They are a huge part of the problems in America. They show up after the fact and blow things out of proportion, then talk about their gossipy conclusions for weeks on end, adding more sensationalism, based on no facts whatsoever, as they go along. Talk about keeping America dumb and dumber. That's the only difference between CNN and Faux News, ya know? One is dumb. The other is dumber. They really are rat bastards.

And why?

And why?

I have a 1972 Chevy Blazer. It's the last year the complete top came off all the way to the windshield. It's getting near time to put the top back on, and I'm replacing the weather-stripping. Some was actually missing, which I didn't know until a couple weeks ago when I was getting started. There's a part called the "drip rail deflector" and I couldn't figure out how it went on so I was checking a Blazer Forum to see if I could find a pic. Found it. There's a picture of it below.

While I was waiting for the search engine at the Blazer Forum to return the results I wanted, I decided to check in.

My forehead still hurts from the smack.

I'm SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

just in case. I agree, every little bit does not need to be fed to the public. Unfortunately much of what is presented as "news" is meant for entertainment, to sell ad time, and to manipulate people. Not to actually inform.

virus isolation/DNA testing on its urine and feces to see if it ever sheds. Maybe they will only do a pre and post blood titer.

I've heard nothing about anybody threatening to euthanize it. Is somebody making shit up to be melodramatic???

Everything I could glean from The Google indicates that the dog is quarantined and is being cared for, and shows no signs of illness. Nobody is seriously talking about euthanizing him. It's just another made-up headline to get people worked up and scared.

Other than his handlers all being covered in plastic, he's probably happy as a clam and being spoiled rotten.

to collect his feces and urine.

The corpmedia are selfish MORONS.

this is one of the consequences of the 24-hour cable news networks. They constantly need something to talk about and rather than straight news they like to create news & controversies.

As a conscientious nurse, I doubt Nina is among the loud voices demanding that her dog be returned to her home. Studies show that dogs can have ebola without showing symptoms, and they also excrete the virus. There's no information on how long their incubation period might be, or how their fluids and waste might affect humans and other animals because no studies have attempted to look at that. However, they know that animal to human transmission of ebola is possible (hence, the outbreak). So this dog is possibly another un-addressed loose end that will come back to bite everyone in the ass. If the situation is not handled appropriately, other animals in this country and/or humans could end up with ebola.

I don't think the dog should be killed--but it definitely should be studied, so researchers can learn more.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/10/09/sot-newday-ebola-pets-amesh-adalja.cnn.html

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/10/14/ac-ebola-and-dogs.cnn-ap.html

He is playing with people in biohazard suits.

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/world/more-world-stories/story/bentley-the-dog-belonging-dallas-ebola-victim-nina-pham-wins-sym

Those are the ones I saw on some other site.

It looks like Bentley is being very well cared for, but I bet that he will be very happy to see Nina! My best vibes to them both and to Amber Vinson.

(except for the elevated temp)

her dog probably would have had no contact with her bodily fluids (which were intact then)

the media is on full-freak out mode, trying to create extra drama so everyone stays tuned ..

In all likelihood the dog isn't infected.
And he is being monitored and tested.
There is no reason for dog to be put down.

it was just cnn looking for ratings.



Bently is and will be fine. I just found the study they keep citing. They didn't find any Ebola antigen in any of the dogs. They found Ebola-specific IgG. That is -- antibodies to Ebola antigen. That means the dogs were exposed and either the virus wasn't even able to infect them and they just cleared it or they got infected and cleared it.

So all they need to do is exactly what they are doing right now. They can test Bently and if they find antibodies, it will mean he was exposed. And they can test him for antigen, and if they don't find any then either he wasn't exposed or he was and he already cleared it from his system.

since she became infected and went to the hospital. Because of the global outrage because of the infected Spanish nurse's dog being destroyed the US decided that Bentley would just go into quarantine for 21 days. He's being taken well care of by folks in hazmat suits that play ball with him when he's not in his crate or playing with his toys on his own. He was moved to a decommissioned navel air base for care.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bentley-dog-of-dallas-nurse-with-ebola-moved-to-naval-air-base/
Bentley, dog of Dallas nurse with Ebola, moved to naval air base

The nurse watched pictures and video of Bentley being moved into quarantine. Her family says Pham was happy to learn "Bentley" is doing fine.

Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings says city officials vowed to do everything in their power to care for Pham's beloved pet.

(video at link)

This is Bentley being removed from Ms. Pham's apartment for quarantine and so they can decontaminate her apartment... He's so cute!





Bentley in quarantine...



Here's a short video of hazmat suited people playing ball with Bentley. He also listens to the radio when in his crate. He certainly seems to be enjoying himself and is being well taken care of though I'm sure he misses his mommy.

Poor woman is already suffering, and these talking head fools have to make it worse by discussing this on TV.

Even if we remain in full hysteria over Ebola, there's a perfectly good reason for keeping the dog alive. Very little is known about this virus - including its effect on animals. This dog has likely been exposed to Ebola, and we now have an opportunity to observe its effects on him. If the virus has gotten into him and he doesn't get sick, this might even provide information that can be used in developing a treatment or a vaccine. I'm fairly certain that the people in charge of caring for Bentley have already thought of this too. They won't learn much of anything from a dead dog.