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September 19, 2014
Secret CIA Document: Americans Are Coarse, Emotional and Lack Civility
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The CIA has just declassified an article from its in-house magazine "Studies in Intelligence embodying this dynamic. The article describes the CIAs response to Gary Webb's 1996 San Jose Mercury News series "Dark Alliance" about the CIAs protection of Nicaraguan contras whom the CIA knew were smuggling cocaine into the U.S.
Webbs reporting was accurate and, we now know (partly thanks to an internal CIA investigation triggered by the series) arguably conservative. But from the perspective of "Studies in Intelligence," the problem wasnt the CIA's alliance with drug dealers; it was that stupid, crude Americans believed this scurrilously accurate nonsense:
Hilariously, the sentence about civil discourse is footnoted, but if you look at the end of the article, the source attesting to the CIAs standards of civil discourse is redacted.
Even funnier, this article was declassified as the result of a lawsuit against the CIA by a former employee, Jeffrey Scudder. Scudder had pointed out that the CIA was refusing to release hundreds of decades-old documents that, according to the law, could no longer be kept secret. In response, the CIA very logically and civilly destroyed his career.
MORE:
http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003715.html
Declassified Article Here:
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC_0001372115.pdf
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But their assessment is accurate when applied to many Americans. Just check the local Tea Party nuts.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)should chill and enrage every American.
Our government, which is supposed to serve us and represent us.
Our increasingly corporate-owned government, which is systematically dismantling our Constitutional right to protest without meeting a brutal federal response, and our right to a free press without journalists ' being imprisoned for talking to whistleblowers and promising them anonymity.
No, this level of contempt and arrogance toward citizens from the government that is supposed to be ours isn't even remotely okay.
It is an outrage.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)i bet a plurality of Americans aren't all three things all at once, BUT, if you can engage one key feature (say, emotionality) and then use that to inflate the others, then that's a "winning" strategy.
if, on the other hand, the PTB were to engage the our higher functions of rationality and empathy, then i bet you dimes to donuts, we'd see more of those behaviors manifest.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)All sports event geared to inflame emotions and lock out critical thought. I play a game when watching MSM, timing the amount of screen time given to which team, the Red or the Blue, is ahead and who made a gaffe, versus actual mention of any policy. It's usually a long wait.
And regionally, at least around here, the political commercials aimed at us are at a blatant third grade level and bizarrely focused on topics like sexual violence. Not that sexual violence isn't important, but this is a national election to select the politicians who will be deciding economic policy, war, trade policy...all these issues that are driving this nation into dystopia.
But ads to those assumed and orchestrated to be coarse and crude and emotionally driven must be just like the rest of our programming...created to divert and inflame.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)limbic systems rather than cerebral cortex.
did advertising for many years -- it's all the same game.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Yeah, tell me that after the midterms. Way too many of us are fucking dumbasses. We either believe the bullshit if the right, or we're too self-absorbed to event vote the fuckers out. My Congressional district is prime example.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)and then uses the result to indict the victims.
A thoughtful, informed, empathetic public would not tolerate the agenda of crippling austerity, corporate/mind-numbing education policy, assaults on journalism, creation of mass surveillance amd propaganda machines, and protection of corporate predators that CREATES the very coarseness the CIA indicts. The corporate elite in both parties are systematically destroying the avenues left for resistance and dramatically escalating these crippling policies.
You're not being oppressed. You can still type on the Internet!
(There's a facile argument around here somewhere...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5596182
Corporate money floods both sides of the aisle in Washington now, which is why we see these very same predatory policies actively advanced by both parties now.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)[font size=3]2+2=4[/font size]
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)What is even more chilling is seeing DUers cosigning that arrogance.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)also build propaganda machines.
Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796
Salon: Obama confidants spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097
Snowden: Training Guide for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/
The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367
U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111
The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801
The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454
Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741
Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351
appalachiablue
(41,177 posts)Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)Their analysis is spot on.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Every single day the curtain comes down a little more.
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
― Frank Zappa
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"If voting could change anything they would make it illegal."
More true now than ever.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... place the word "being" between the words when and torturing.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)"when being tortured" was what I meant.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Give me a fucking break.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Talk about demented.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)*Study was conducted on Democraticunderground.com during election season.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)instead of the unconscionable arrogance and condescension of a government that pretends publicly to be representational while privately managing and manipulating us as though we were farm animals for profit.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)'Woo me with science' fails to grasp simple humor and sarcasm while comparing people to farm animals for profit.
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)I usually say something within 10 minutes that makes the room go silent.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Of course they did.
And doesn't the CIA's assessment of Americans sound familiar. Every neoOrwellian society keeps a condescending eye on its proles:
Unitl they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.
That, he reflected, might almost have been a transcription from one of the Party textbooks.
-Orwell, 1984
In reality very little was known about the proles. It was not necessary to know much. So long as they continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance... Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbours, films, football, beer, and above all, gambling, filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult. A few agents of the Thought Police moved always among them, spreading false rumours and marking down and eliminating the few individuals who were judged capable of becoming dangerous. No attempt was made to indoctrinate them with the ideology of the Party. It was not desirable that the proles should have strong political feelings. All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working-hours or shorter rations. And even when they became discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere, because being without general ideas, they could only focus in on petty specific grievances. The larger evils invariably escaped their notice.
-Orwell, 1984
Brigid
(17,621 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)torture, gun running, dope dealing, assassination, murder and overthrowing governments is mostly beyond our grasp.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I didn't find it.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)so true and a few more adjectives are missing in the word list that are very important in describing our society and its culture.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)kpete
(72,022 posts)the truth hurts,
peace,
kp
haele
(12,681 posts)CIA recruits their intel operators and leadership from the Ivy league, the boardroom, and other locations you can find people that are privileged and in power.
Their grunts or enforcement may be "talented" normal Americans or Mercs that worked their way up to a position they could be noticed and trusted to get a job done, but the CIA itself has always been a "good old boy" club that earned their keep playing the Great Game for their peers in power.
Haele
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I see it every day. Condescending, yes -- but also true.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... (need to lay it down horizontal for a while... falling asleep sitting up, here.)
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)Coarse, emotional, and lacking in civility than be a sociopath.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)appalachiablue
(41,177 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Before, it was just an opinion. Let the CIA say it; it's incontrovertible fact.
If the CIA were a publicly traded company, DUers would be snapping up its stock like there was no tomorrow for no other reason than they love the message. The recs kinda bear that out.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)THE ORIGINS OF THE OVERCLASS
by Steve Kangas
The wealthy have always used many methods to accumulate wealth, but it was not until the mid-1970s that these methods coalesced into a superbly organized, cohesive and efficient machine. After 1975, it became greater than the sum of its parts, a smooth flowing organization of advocacy groups, lobbyists, think tanks, conservative foundations, and PR firms that hurtled the richest 1 percent into the stratosphere.
The origins of this machine, interestingly enough, can be traced back to the CIA. This is not to say the machine is a formal CIA operation, complete with code name and signed documents. (Although such evidence may yet surface and previously unthinkable domestic operations such as MK-ULTRA, CHAOS and MOCKINGBIRD show this to be a distinct possibility.) But what we do know already indicts the CIA strongly enough. Its principle creators were Irving Kristol, Paul Weyrich, William Simon, Richard Mellon Scaife, Frank Shakespeare, William F. Buckley, Jr., the Rockefeller family, and more. Almost all the machine's creators had CIA backgrounds.
SNIP...
How did this alliance start? The CIA has always recruited the nations elite: millionaire businessmen, Wall Street brokers, members of the national news media, and Ivy League scholars. During World War II, General "Wild Bill" Donovan became chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA. Donovan recruited so exclusively from the nations rich and powerful that members eventually came to joke that "OSS" stood for "Oh, so social!"
SNIP...
Historically, the CIA and societys elite have been one and the same people. This means that their interests and goals are one and the same as well. Perhaps the most frequent description of the intelligence community is the "old boy network," where members socialize, talk shop, conduct business and tap each other for favors well outside the formal halls of government.
CONTINUED...
http://www.american-buddha.com/illum.originsofoverclass.htm
It's a legacy thing.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"We live in somewhat coarse and emotional timeswhen large numbers of Americans do not adhere to the same standards of logic, evidence, or even civil discourse..."
It appears to be a rather accurate description... regardless of the motives many are alleging.
Mister Nightowl
(396 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)aren't coarse and emotional.
I think if I have ever seen a case of pointing a finger while four more point back at you, this would be the prime example.