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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 12:23 PM Oct 2014

Report: NFL could reinstate former Ravens running back Ray Rice within a month

Former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice could be reinstated by the NFL within a month, CBSSports.com reported on Sunday.

While Rice remains indefinitely suspended for punching his then-fiancee Janay Palmer in an Atlantic City elevator last February, the league has set a hearing date for the former All-Pro back's appeal, according to CBSSports.com's Jason La Canfora. A decision on Rice's future could reportedly come in mid-November.

The NFL initially suspended Rice for two games prior to TMZ releasing video of his domestic abuse. Rice's legal team allegedly contends he deserves a suspension no longer than the new NFL policy of six games for first-time offenders because commissioner Roger Goodell was made aware of what was on the video.

The hearing will be conducted by former U.S. District Court Judge Barbara S. Jones and is expected to be completed before erstwhile FBI director Robert Mueller completes his independent investigation into the incident on behalf of the NFL, according to La Canfora.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--nfl-could-reinstate-former-ravens-running-back-ray-rice-within-a-month-235409237.html

The article is full of what if's and possibilities, not so much on facts...no one would take him...though I could be wrong.

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Report: NFL could reinstate former Ravens running back Ray Rice within a month (Original Post) joeybee12 Oct 2014 OP
Ugh shenmue Oct 2014 #1
Pardon me while I puke. theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #2
I'm not sure how the victim benefits by not allowing her spouse to ... 11 Bravo Oct 2014 #20
$$$$ speaks 840high Oct 2014 #3
Should he be precluded from working his job forever? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #4
It's reasonable to expect a longer turnaround time at the very least. Orrex Oct 2014 #7
"...barely regained consciousness?" Jenoch Oct 2014 #9
His victim doesn't seem to give a shit. eom eissa Oct 2014 #10
I am not really arguing for any specific position joeglow3 Oct 2014 #16
Most commonly it requires that the criminal has repaid his or her debt to society Orrex Oct 2014 #18
Yes and no joeglow3 Oct 2014 #19
The NFL's new policy is a six-game suspension for first offenders. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #5
49ers will sign him. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #6
Al Davis would have signed him. n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2014 #8
The NFL effed up and double punished him for the same offense, in violation of the Players contract alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #11
He can be reinstated whenever he wants Calista241 Oct 2014 #12
I think you are totally mistaken. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #13
I disagree Calista241 Oct 2014 #15
RB stock has really dropped in the last decade joeglow3 Oct 2014 #17
according Football outsiders Ray Rice was the poorest performing back in the league in 2013 Johonny Oct 2014 #21
I despise what Rice did to his fiance. That said, Goodell scapegoated Rice alp227 Oct 2014 #14
 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
4. Should he be precluded from working his job forever?
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:10 PM
Oct 2014

I see people on DU all the time talking about the importance of allowing criminals to re-enter the workforce to help prevent them from relapsing and simply living a life of crime. Does that logic exclude football players? If so, why?

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
7. It's reasonable to expect a longer turnaround time at the very least.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:34 PM
Oct 2014

If he'd been arrested for shoplifting while working at 7-11, he'd have lost that job and would never get it back.

To have him back on the field when his victim has just barely regained consciousness? Seems a bit premature, to be honest.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
16. I am not really arguing for any specific position
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:40 PM
Oct 2014

I just pointed out that we believe businesses should be more understanding and willing to hire convicted criminals. People seem to suspend that belief in some situations.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
18. Most commonly it requires that the criminal has repaid his or her debt to society
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:51 PM
Oct 2014

The case is admittedly complicated by the fact that his victim isn't pursuing the matter, but it's not accurate to equate this case to cases in which a convicted offender can't find work after being released from jail.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
19. Yes and no
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 04:22 PM
Oct 2014

Do we, as a community, think it is acceptable to not give people jobs because of a crime we know they committed, but they cannot be legally convicted of?

I guess I am fine either way, because we can demand it and, if economically smart, the company will follow.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. The NFL's new policy is a six-game suspension for first offenders.
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:17 PM
Oct 2014

Ray Rice would appear to qualify to be reinstated under that rule.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
11. The NFL effed up and double punished him for the same offense, in violation of the Players contract
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 01:45 PM
Oct 2014

When he is reinstated, y'all can blame Goodell for soft-selling the first punishment. As is very obvious, Godell had all the information and gave him the piddling two game suspension. Then when the video (which Goodell almost certainly knew of, if he didn't see) caused a public furor, Goodell punished him again. That's all well and good, but the Players contract has an explicit stipulation barring multiple punishments for the same offense, so the indefinite suspension was illegitimate.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
12. He can be reinstated whenever he wants
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:09 PM
Oct 2014

He's still got to get a team to hire him, which is probably a long shot.

Michael Vick spent several years in jail, and publicly suffered serious consequences for his crimes. Ray Rice looks like he got off nearly scot free, and I think teams (potential employers) will have a hard time getting over that.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. I disagree
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:27 PM
Oct 2014

Running backs are essentially a dime a dozen in the NFL.

A superior running back, in today's NFL, is only marginally better than a mediocre one.

Teams also will not want NOW and other women's groups protesting outside or during their games. Essentially, NFL teams are marketing organizations, and have spent an astronomical amount of time and money to appeal to women.

No team will willingly suffer the consequences of a hire like this, for a marginal improvement at this position.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
17. RB stock has really dropped in the last decade
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:41 PM
Oct 2014

I agree with so many teams going to a committee approach. I could see AP getting on somewhere, as he is one of the few that really dominate.

Johonny

(20,854 posts)
21. according Football outsiders Ray Rice was the poorest performing back in the league in 2013
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 04:52 PM
Oct 2014

his previous team is doing just fine without him. Ray Rice will likely find offers but not at nearly what he was making because frankly there is little evidence out there that says you aren't right. Most dominate backs don't stay so for long and it is not hard to find a league average back that comes without the negative PR. I expect Rice to find a team in the off season after he's at least shown to be incident free for a year.

alp227

(32,034 posts)
14. I despise what Rice did to his fiance. That said, Goodell scapegoated Rice
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:22 PM
Oct 2014

as a PR stunt to divert attention from the NFL's dishonest "what did we know and when" message.

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