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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 12:44 PM Oct 2014

Unskewing the KY-Sen polls

Clearly Biased Polls Being Sold As Fact To Discourage Voters From Voting For Alison Grimes

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The Rasmussen poll also has Mitch McConnell getting 24% support from Democrats. For the sake of comparison, the insanely biased Fox News poll that had McConnell up by four points has the incumbent getting 12% Democratic support. It is clear that Rasmussen built McConnell’s eight-point advantage in their poll by doubling the Republican’s level of Democratic support.

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The problem with Rasmussen is that they don’t poll cell phone users. Instead of polling cell users, they use an online panel and landline phones to compile their data. The problem with not polling cell phone only users is that the poll leaves out younger voters who are more likely to support Democrats.

It is safe to conclude that the Rasmussen Reports poll of the Kentucky Senate race is another in a string of recent polls from Republican biased pollsters who are trying to discourage Democratic turnout while influencing the polling models. A close examination of the recent data leads to the suspicion that Republican pollsters have increased the level of bias in their polling in order to negate the built in bias subtraction of the polling models. For example, if 538 calculates a four point Republican bias, the pollster responds with a poll that contains a 6-8 point level of bias, so that their favored candidate still leads and the polling result influences the average of all polls.

The Rasmussen poll is a bad poll from a Republican pollster with a history of being inaccurate and wrong. The Senate election in Kentucky is going to be close. The deciding factor will be turnout and the impact of the Grimes ground game. Media members who write a story giving these Republican polls legitimacy are committing journalist malpractice. Members of the media don’t need to be polling experts, but it would be nice if the could tell the difference between a good poll and a bad poll. The Rasmussen poll is a very bad poll.

The numbers can be shaped to lie. Mitch McConnell is a lot closer to losing his seat than he is to leading by eight points.

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Somebody needs to get this unskewed analysis to the DSCC so they can start airing ads again.
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Unskewing the KY-Sen polls (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 OP
And you know that'll make the difference? brooklynite Oct 2014 #1
There is a Bluegrass poll coming out later this evening. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #2
Let's hope the Bluegrass poll doesn't need unskewing Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #3
Last poll had her up by 2. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #4
WKU is in Western Ky. kentuck Oct 2014 #6
I assume they did. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #7
Her ads are still running here Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #5
Bluegrass poll has him up by 1 percent.44 to 43 hrmjustin Oct 2014 #8
Using my method to correct for the 5-7% that change their vote in the booth, 49 to 43. CK_John Oct 2014 #10
Hmmmm...I remember when GOPers were enamored with "skewed poll analysis" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #9
Please stop looking at one poll, and look at them as a collective ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #11
UPDATE: DSCC IS BACK IN Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #12

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
1. And you know that'll make the difference?
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 12:50 PM
Oct 2014

Seriously, do you believe that 1) DSCC is too stupid to evaluate both it's and other polling, and 2) DSCC is too stupid to program ads if they thought it would make a difference? We've been through the false meme that DSCC is "abandoning" Kentucky; they've been clear that they're reprogramming resources to get out votes. But I guess you know better?

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
5. Her ads are still running here
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 02:18 PM
Oct 2014

I'm on the KY/IN border.

In fact, they're running pretty consistently....usually right behind McTurtle's nonsense.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
9. Hmmmm...I remember when GOPers were enamored with "skewed poll analysis"
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 06:05 PM
Oct 2014

It was right before they got their asses handed to them.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
12. UPDATE: DSCC IS BACK IN
Wed Oct 22, 2014, 03:36 PM
Oct 2014
Seeing hope for victory, national Democrats are jumping back into Kentucky with a $650,000 investment in television ad money in the final two weeks of the closely-watched Senate race.

After pulling their resources from the air in Kentucky last week, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee will lend Alison Lundergan Grimes $650,000, a DSCC official confirmed to TPM on Wednesday.

"Race tightening. Undecideds breaking her way," the official said.

TPM


And some of you mocked this unskewing.
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