If you can afford to pay your own tuition or have parents that will pay it you don't have to sign up. It's not like an arrest is going to happen. And it's also the American way, punish the most vulnerable and the rich get away with fleecing the public.

But didn't realize it was a lifelong penalty. Perhaps they make it clear in high schools but it does sound draconian.

It is ridiculous - but reflects the ubiquitous punishment mentality of the Americans who control our politics and government.

and do away with the draft. No matter how you try to rationalize it, the draft is involuntary servitude.

student withdraws to move with his family that card must be filled out in the Counselor's Office. It may still be possible at the Administration Office of the last School District, attended. The District has to keep the student's Transcript or final grades on file. He should check with the local school district office and main state education agency. They can give him information on where to register as they handle GEDs/Adult Education also.

was a moron at 18 and did not know he was supposed to register with the Selective Service. To punish him now is ridiculous.

But the rest, not so much. Some young men are morons at 18, sure, but not knowing about or actually doing this doesn't make someone a moron.

This is an example of a systemic problem that overwhelmingly effects people of certain class, race, and other demographics.

Systemic, measurable differences. So whether or not the guy in one anecdote is a moron or not, the odds are likely stacked against him. (Whereas they are less likely to be stacked against people of other certain class, race and other demographics, whether or not they are morons..)

This policy serves to disenfranchise and punish people. The way other policies have in the past - the effect is quite similar today. Like Voter ID laws, standardized tests, felons losing many rights for life, etc.

New Jim Crow.

I remember my dad making me register at 17. I thought it was dumb, but he told me to just do it and get it over with. Honestly, if he hadn't made me do it, I probably would have just said "screw this" and forgotten about it. As a teenager, I thought I was too cool for bureaucracy.

However, there are boys without fathers in their lives that do not screw up as much as this guy did. It sounds like he's finally trying to get it together. I hope he can find a lawyer who will take his case pro bono.

He's a 38 year old felon, he wouldn't even be eligible for military service. But yeah, he is a mess overall.

and this is just one of many ways the system is rigged to make someone who gets in that hole stay there.

...but that's not the point.

If I remember, they said they didn't keep the conversations, just the metadata.

How utterly convenient...



"Is this (Insert Name)"

"Yes"

"We are having a war, and need for you to report...now. And our drones have your location."

he turned 18, but I honestly have no idea if the younger one, now 27, ever did.

It is totally stupid to punish someone over 25 for not having registered, especially considering we haven't had a draft for so very long.

I take it the Selective Service actually keeps track of who registered. How totally dumb.

Pisses me of to no end.

And Phyllis Schlafly is largely to blame.

Women should register as well.

was this is why men need feminism!

Register and then lobby to change the law.

We should be a nation of laws and if enough citizens want it changed, then make it happen.

was among those that were the first who by law had to register with the Selective Service. I think he was already 18 when he registered. I registered at 18 but was never fearful that there would be a draft. I am still quite sure there will not be a draft. WWIII would have to start for there to be a draft.

and I never intend to honor it, but I get PELL grants and other benefits...

WIN/WIN.

yet being a felon he'd almost certainly be 4-F in a draft.

The military doesn't want the draft and politicians won't ever risk re-election by drafting kids to die. It's just a boondoggle drain on our resources.

... when did he turn eighteen? Before or after prison? What DO prisons do when they have a prison full of teenagers? Do they register them for Selective Service in prison if they turn 18 on the inside? And if he had turned 18 just after his incarceration, would they not remind him that he needed to go to the nearest PO and get that done as soon as his birthday arrived? I think he should be allowed to register now, considering the circumstances, whether he was in or out of prison when he turned 18. IMHO.