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Breaking: School shooting in Seattle (Original Post) B2G Oct 2014 OP
Reports that gunman is dead B2G Oct 2014 #1
Lord have mercy shenmue Oct 2014 #2
Police: shooter dead after opening fire at Marysville-Pilchuck High School B2G Oct 2014 #3
Now reporting 3 dead, including gunman nt B2G Oct 2014 #4
Multiple students in critical condition with head injuries malaise Oct 2014 #49
Welp. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #5
We can do without this crap right now. GGJohn Oct 2014 #7
It's never too early to talk about why something happened. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #19
Come on, you and I know nothing is going to happen, GGJohn Oct 2014 #20
I know nothing is going to happen. Ykcutnek Oct 2014 #21
Instead of complaining about it, GGJohn Oct 2014 #22
Nothing will happen because of gun promoters/apologists like you. When you guys wise up and Hoyt Oct 2014 #71
You're a funny man. GGJohn Oct 2014 #73
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #76
Basically, I don't like the people that are into gunz to the point they carry them, practice to Hoyt Oct 2014 #80
Nothing is worth the deaths of these children. This is a an absolute tragedy. Calista241 Oct 2014 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #70
Mister tough guy arcane1 Oct 2014 #79
Ah, Yes, Noble Sacrifices Conscripted To Lay On The Altar Of Freedom The Magistrate Oct 2014 #81
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #65
Gosh I sure hope no GUNS were hurt! Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #6
See post #7. GGJohn Oct 2014 #8
Take it up with the NRA Youdontwantthetruth Oct 2014 #10
relevant point, in yet another shooting, with dead youth.... nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #11
It may be, GGJohn Oct 2014 #12
says you. maybe we are plain fuggin sick and tired of always being told, ... later. as our youth die seabeyond Oct 2014 #13
Ok. GGJohn Oct 2014 #15
I imagine many people pretend to know when the appropriate time is or isn't. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #25
So when is the right time? How much after the last one, or before the next one is ok with you? Electric Monk Oct 2014 #30
Sorry, I don't respond to cartoons. GGJohn Oct 2014 #32
Was my subject line a cartoon? You simply don't want it discussed, I get it. Electric Monk Oct 2014 #33
Another cartoon? GGJohn Oct 2014 #36
You could discuss if you choose, yet you're choosing not to. Even Dr Seuss is too much for you. Electric Monk Oct 2014 #37
See post #36. GGJohn Oct 2014 #39
See post #37 Electric Monk Oct 2014 #40
Here's my answer. GGJohn Oct 2014 #43
why don't you like cartoons? Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #45
I never said I don't like cartoons, GGJohn Oct 2014 #52
I thought he was making his point in his subject line, Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #91
Why are you being so rude? Marrah_G Oct 2014 #46
I'm not being rude, I just don't respond to cartoons. GGJohn Oct 2014 #48
gun deaths are at a 20 year low backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #50
Not low enough. Hoyt Oct 2014 #74
Hello bigwillq Oct 2014 #17
Guns SAVE lives. The NRA told me so. nt valerief Oct 2014 #47
Tell that to the Canadian Parliment, and the heroic Sgt. At Arms. GGJohn Oct 2014 #54
It was a really good thing that the shooter in Ottawa didn't have easy access to large cap magazines Electric Monk Oct 2014 #61
tell that to the dead one. oh wait. you cannot. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #62
Another shooting brought to you by the National Rifle Assholes. Initech Oct 2014 #9
Jesus H. Christ on a trailer hitch... is this the new normal? demmiblue Oct 2014 #14
Gotta wonder if this is a case of a student being bullied and the school not taking it seriously. GGJohn Oct 2014 #16
And nothing will be done Marrah_G Oct 2014 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #68
Article at Seattle Times site shenmue Oct 2014 #23
And the carnage continues. Brigid Oct 2014 #24
I wonder how he got the gun gwheezie Oct 2014 #26
Birthday present from his parents. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #38
I bet it was a kid who was bullied scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #27
Not the picture that's emerging B2G Oct 2014 #31
Read a twitter post from his cousin saying 2 victims were her other cousins Marrah_G Oct 2014 #69
Very sad for any innocents who died LittleBlue Oct 2014 #28
Plus 1 Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #42
can't wait for the ammosexuals to explain how this has nothing to do with guns KG Oct 2014 #29
He could've just as easily done it with a fork, or a rope, or a swimming pool Electric Monk Oct 2014 #35
Or scissors. Schools have so many scissors. valerief Oct 2014 #58
Maybe the ammophobes can dig up a quote for us... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2014 #92
This makes me sick... Lancero Oct 2014 #34
Pretty much what I was saying, and got grief for it. GGJohn Oct 2014 #41
Sick and sad sarisataka Oct 2014 #44
Fewer victims, and fewer sad families, if fewer guns villager Oct 2014 #67
So you think the families involved are reading DU? A Simple Game Oct 2014 #57
"Children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way." Rex Oct 2014 #51
Start with Universal background checks and mandatory safe storage laws. GGJohn Oct 2014 #56
Yes! Rex Oct 2014 #63
+1000. GGJohn Oct 2014 #64
Mandatory safe storage laws cannot be enforced. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #85
I know that, but I figure that if enough negligent gun owners are held responsible for GGJohn Oct 2014 #88
I'm all for them getting punished if children get hold of them. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #89
OMG, this is not that far away from me. Those poor children. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #53
A permanent solution to a temporary problem. Anger. Suicide/Revenge. Damn. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #55
I heard this was supposedly over a girl. GGJohn Oct 2014 #60
I wonder how many kids posed with guns for their yearbook here. nt valerief Oct 2014 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #72
That is stupid- no teacher with a gun would have stopped this. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #82
like the teacher that accidently shot herself in the leg? cause it is not unusual to hear EXPERT seabeyond Oct 2014 #77
No what we need is that kids don't have legal access to guns. Cleita Oct 2014 #83
I suppose this shooter just guaranteed passage of this ballot initiative... Generic Other Oct 2014 #78
What is needed also is the mandatory safe storage. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #86
So this kid breaks the mold of the outcast, bullied loner. He was popular and had been Cleita Oct 2014 #84
So does anyone not think we need to work on young men that women are not possessions. dilby Oct 2014 #87
It's an ill of almost all of human society. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #90
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
1. Reports that gunman is dead
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 02:32 PM
Oct 2014

(CNN) —Investigators are responding Friday to a reported school shooting in Marysville, Washington, just north of Seattle, said Inci Yarkut, a spokeswoman for the Washington State Patrol.

KOMO-TV reported at least two students were injured.

The shooting was reported at about 10:45 a.m., the Seattle Times reported.

Additional details were not immediately available.



Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/national/school-shooting-reported-near-seattle/29322390#ixzz3H5Yg6NO9
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
3. Police: shooter dead after opening fire at Marysville-Pilchuck High School
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 02:34 PM
Oct 2014

A student believed to have opened fire at Marysville-Pilchuck High School Friday morning is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to two law-enforcement sources.

Police have not released details, but there are reports of as many as six other people injured.

Ambulances are staging around the school and police are searching room to room with guns drawn, leaving tape to mark the doors of the rooms that have been cleared.

Some students were being evacuated from the school, walking out and across the fields with their hands up. Some were being bused to a nearby church. Others were being told to stay inside classrooms.

The shooting was reported about 10:45 a.m.

We’ll update this post with more information.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/10/shooting-reported-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
5. Welp.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 02:53 PM
Oct 2014

Another mass shooting brought to you by the NRA and the spineless politicians they purchase with blood money.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
7. We can do without this crap right now.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 02:56 PM
Oct 2014

Prayers for all that were injured and condolences to the victims families.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
19. It's never too early to talk about why something happened.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:14 PM
Oct 2014

Prayers that their deaths won't be in vain.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
20. Come on, you and I know nothing is going to happen,
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:20 PM
Oct 2014

if Congress couldn't even pass a UBC after the horror of Sandy Hook, what makes you think there'll be any legislation this time around?
God, I hate being a realist.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
22. Instead of complaining about it,
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:24 PM
Oct 2014

how about doing what I do?
I write my lawmakers, both state and federal, I personally visit my lawmakers when I can, I donate money to the candidates that I think wil do the best, things like that.
Now, I don't know you, you may very well do all these things, so if you do, then, kudos.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
71. Nothing will happen because of gun promoters/apologists like you. When you guys wise up and
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:40 PM
Oct 2014

tell politicians it's OK to pass tough laws, they will be enacted.

Response to Hoyt (Reply #71)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
80. Basically, I don't like the people that are into gunz to the point they carry them, practice to
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

shoot people, support Zimmermans, promote them, support NRA, and are more often than not right wingers.

I'm fine with you not "trusting" me.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
66. Nothing is worth the deaths of these children. This is a an absolute tragedy.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:22 PM
Oct 2014

Nothing that comes from this, on the pro gun or the gun control side, is worth the deaths of these children.

Response to Calista241 (Reply #66)

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
81. Ah, Yes, Noble Sacrifices Conscripted To Lay On The Altar Of Freedom
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

"I've got to stop asking people if they're really that stupid. They take it as a challenge."

Response to Ykcutnek (Reply #5)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. says you. maybe we are plain fuggin sick and tired of always being told, ... later. as our youth die
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:01 PM
Oct 2014
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. I imagine many people pretend to know when the appropriate time is or isn't.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:35 PM
Oct 2014

I imagine many people pretend to know when the appropriate time is or isn't.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
36. Another cartoon?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:32 PM
Oct 2014

I don't do cartoons.
Want a serious conversation? Lose the cartoons and then I'll respond.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
91. I thought he was making his point in his subject line,
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:16 PM
Oct 2014

then complementing it with visual aids. But you rejected
without considering what he was saying/asking, simply
on the basis of the cartoons. Therefore I presumed you
disliked toons or at least were indifferent to them.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
50. gun deaths are at a 20 year low
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:55 PM
Oct 2014

but you dont want to hear that.

Maybe we should start figuring out why this shit is happening instead of blaming the gun?

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
61. It was a really good thing that the shooter in Ottawa didn't have easy access to large cap magazines
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:08 PM
Oct 2014

He was using a simple lever action deer rifle, a Winchester .30-30.

Imagine how much worse that could have been if he'd been armed with an ar-15 with 30 round mags?

demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
14. Jesus H. Christ on a trailer hitch... is this the new normal?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

We have to put an end to this violence.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
16. Gotta wonder if this is a case of a student being bullied and the school not taking it seriously.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:04 PM
Oct 2014

We should know in the next few days or so.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
18. And nothing will be done
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:12 PM
Oct 2014

They freak the fuck out about Ebola, which has not killed anyone infected here, but guns that actually kill people? nope, can't even pass basic safety and sale regulations. Can't even have a Surgeon General to help with the ebola "crisis" because the nominee says that guns are a health and safety issue (which it is) ...........

We are a seriously fucked up country.

Response to Marrah_G (Reply #18)

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
26. I wonder how he got the gun
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:44 PM
Oct 2014

someone wasn't responsible
What a waste of life. Hope all wounded recover.

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
27. I bet it was a kid who was bullied
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:46 PM
Oct 2014


It sounds like he targeted that table of the students who were all sitting together

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
69. Read a twitter post from his cousin saying 2 victims were her other cousins
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:36 PM
Oct 2014

It's twitter, so who knows if it is accurate.

Edit: Nate Hatch and an Andrew Fryberg according to friends/family via twitter.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
34. This makes me sick...
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:28 PM
Oct 2014

Both the shooting and the fact that BOTH sides are already rushing the politicize it.

Have some respect for the families, at least give them a few days to grieve for their loss.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
67. Fewer victims, and fewer sad families, if fewer guns
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:23 PM
Oct 2014

...so easily available.

Which is both sick, and sad, when you think on it.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
57. So you think the families involved are reading DU?
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:02 PM
Oct 2014

How about with respect for the families we come up with some possible solutions?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
51. "Children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way."
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:56 PM
Oct 2014

We are not teaching our children well. The easy access to firearms has to be dealt with.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
63. Yes!
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:15 PM
Oct 2014

Somehow we need to light a fire under Congress to change some of the laws to reflect what the majority of people want in this country.

I remember back in the day (1980) being able to buy a firearm (a pistol) from a friend for 60 bucks. In High School! Some things need to change...and need to change ASAP.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
85. Mandatory safe storage laws cannot be enforced.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:58 PM
Oct 2014

All you can do is hold someone responsible if something happens.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
88. I know that, but I figure that if enough negligent gun owners are held responsible for
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:03 PM
Oct 2014

not securing their weapons around children, it'll have a ripple effect and more people will safe store them.
At least it's something.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
89. I'm all for them getting punished if children get hold of them.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:05 PM
Oct 2014

But I am concerned that some people don't understand that you can't sent police into homes for "compliance checks" on laws. I've encountered a few here.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
53. OMG, this is not that far away from me. Those poor children.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 04:57 PM
Oct 2014

My thoughts and prayers go out to all the parents at that school. Oh, how I hope I-591 fails and I-594 passes.

Response to B2G (Original post)

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
75. That is stupid- no teacher with a gun would have stopped this.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:45 PM
Oct 2014

He didn't say a word. He stood up and shot 5 people, two of which were his cousins.

What would have stopped this would be if all you NRA-types kept your guns where your kids CANNOT get them. AND stop giving your children deadly weapons.

Response to Marrah_G (Reply #75)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
77. like the teacher that accidently shot herself in the leg? cause it is not unusual to hear EXPERT
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:49 PM
Oct 2014

accidentally shoot themselves and others. so. no thank you. taking the risk that some do gooder with a gun, ooops, kills my kid. whether anger or accident, dead is dead.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
83. No what we need is that kids don't have legal access to guns.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:54 PM
Oct 2014

We don't let them drive until a certain age or drink alcohol or smoke. Sure they will try but the adults who are careless or who enable them usually pay a price for it whether in money, lawyers, or even having their licenses taken from them. So I think we need to make adults responsible for their guns by making any minor possessing a gun illegal and punishing the adults who allow them to, a seller, a parent or other adult.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
78. I suppose this shooter just guaranteed passage of this ballot initiative...
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

The Washington Universal Background Checks for Gun Purchases, Initiative 594 is on the November 4, 2014 ballot in the state of Washington as an Initiative to the Legislature.

If approved by voters, the measure would require background checks to be run on every person purchasing a gun in the state of Washington, even those who are doing so via private sales. However, transfers of antique guns and those between immediate family members would be exempt from the background checks. The measure also requires that dealers who are facilitating gun transfers, be they through the licensed dealer or a private seller, receive confirmation in writing from the chief of police or sheriff that the purchaser in question "is eligible to possess a pistol [...] and that the application to purchase is approved by the chief of police or sheriff." Furthermore, the initiative would render it illegal to hand off a firearm to people outside a person's immediate family, though exceptions are mentioned, including situations in which people are at a shooting range or hunting.[1][2]

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
86. What is needed also is the mandatory safe storage.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:59 PM
Oct 2014

I will bet that was his parent's unsecured weapon.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
84. So this kid breaks the mold of the outcast, bullied loner. He was popular and had been
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 05:56 PM
Oct 2014

elected "Prince" of the school by other students. So it seems it's up to us to keep guns out of the hands of minors, period. Legislators, it's time for you guys to work for a change.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
87. So does anyone not think we need to work on young men that women are not possessions.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:01 PM
Oct 2014

This guy killed a girl because she rejected him, I really want to know why he thought he could take her life. What in his upbringing did he see that gave him this idea.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
90. It's an ill of almost all of human society.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:07 PM
Oct 2014

I'd love to see the thinking that women are possessions eliminated.

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