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anybody else see this? going around fb.
aside from the ridiculously low sample ##, wtf?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In fact the voter fraud I have seen has been by Republicans and two of the examples were candidates running for offices illegally.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Sow Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt in advance of the midterms and carry it through to the 2016 season.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)It sounds like politicized bullshit guesswork.
mopinko
(70,112 posts)song and dance.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)There was a local, (MN) legislative primary with a longtime DFL incumbant (40+ years in the MN House) being opposed by a man of Somali descent. There was a legal issue concerning the votor registration of several hundred people who lived near the Somali candidate. A few hundred people (Somalis) registered to vote using the same P.O. Box. It is not legal to register to vote in Minnesota using a P.O. box.
Rhe question I have is, are all of these people registering to vote U.S. citizens. We have no way of knowing.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)You register with a social security number and the county clerk's office checks to see if you are entitled to vote. They have computers. It isn't hard for them to check.
a Social Security number is not required, at least not in Minnesota. A photo ID is not required. Registration can be done on a post card, on the internet, or in person, all without photo ID in Minnesota, including election day. On election day a person can register to vote with photo ID that includes an address, or they can bring in a utility bill that invludes their name and address, or they can bring in a registered voter from their precinct who will vouch for them that they live in the precinct and have lived there 30 days or more in the immediate 30 days prior to the general election.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)so I forgot what's involved, but they still have the ability to check who is entitled to vote and who isn't. There aren't bunches of non-citizen immigrants from Somalia voting in your local elections.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Some municipalities are allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections and this is causing people to think non-citizens are voting in federal elections.
Also: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/06/17/fox-pushes-non-citizen-voting-myth-after-suprem/194493
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)i knew it smelled funny.
their sample size is tiny, and throwing around big percentage scary, but they are talking about a handful of votes.
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)UTUSN
(70,696 posts)Who are "non-citizens" -- undocumented immigrants or green carders?
Both of those groups have their own reasons for not voting: Undocumenteds live in fear and in life-or-death conditions and voting is the last thing on their minds. Green carders have a lot to lose with their legal status. And although there are more green carders who might have been in the country for longer periods such that they have more of a chance of being familiar with the politics here, most immigrants are just not acclimated to U.S. politics, more likely to "translate" U.S. parties into their country of origin's definitions.
I looked at the website of the survey, looking for suspected KOCH or other wingnut ties, but it's all disguised from me.