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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:20 AM Oct 2014

Jamie Dimon: U.S. Must Create a “Safe Harbor” Where JPM’s Corruption Is Not “Punished”

I want to give a hat tip to a recent Wall Street Journal article that brought to my attention two damning admissions by JPMorgan’s (JPM) CEO and Chairman of the Board, Jamie Dimon. The irony is that Dimon was lulled into making these admissions because he was basking in the perfect calm created by the confluence of Sorkin’s and CNBC’s storied sycophancy at the one place on earth where elite bankers feel most loved, honored, and protected – the annual meeting of the ultra-wealthy in Davos, Switzerland. Sorkin was the only interviewer, so Dimon faced no risk of tough questions. It may well have been this perfect setting that caused Dimon to let slip the mask and reveal two illustrative sins of elite bankers reported in the WSJ article.


“A spokesman for J.P. Morgan declined to comment on the continuing investigations. Mr. Dimon said in a January 2014 interview on CNBC that it has been a ‘norm of business for years’ for banks to hire [ex government officials and the] sons and daughters of companies’ [controlling officers] and to give them ‘proper jobs’ without violating the law.

‘But we got to figure out exactly how to create a safe harbor for that so you don’t…end up getting punished,’ he told the interviewer, according to a CNBC transcript.”


Yes, you read that correctly. It has been a “norm of business for years” for multinational corporations to hire the “sons and daughters of companies’ [controlling officials]” and to hire “ex government officials” in order to secure the favor of those powerful officials for the banks. Dimon’s concern is that it is essential that firms should be able to continue to purchase this influence with other elites in this manner with no threat of ever “getting punished” for buying influence with such powerful foreign officials.” JPM’s priority is “to figure out exactly how to create a safe haven for that.” The elite firms’ “norm of business for years” is not an admission from Dimon’s perspective, but rather a claim of right. Anything that elite firms have done successfully for years to purchase influence with other elites (including hiring “ex government officials”) is obviously something that they have a right to continue to do – with total impunity from “getting punished.” It’s not bribery, it’s buying influence with powerful officials who run firms and government agencies and ministries.

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2014/10/jamie-dimon-u-s-must-create-safe-harbor-jpms-corruption-punished.html



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Jamie Dimon: U.S. Must Create a “Safe Harbor” Where JPM’s Corruption Is Not “Punished” (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 OP
When a great intellect uses it for greed and greed only. What a waste. What happend to the ethics? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #1
"E-thics?" What are "E-thics"? I do not no thiz werd . . . . hatrack Oct 2014 #2
Dimon has been subjected to multiple ethics investigations, but none have ever been found. Scuba Oct 2014 #3
Zing goes the dynamite.... nicely done n/t Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #4
I have the PERFECT place! Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #5
HAHAHAHAHA!! beerandjesus Oct 2014 #7
My picture was a jail cell AwakeAtLast Oct 2014 #42
Got your card ready this year Jamie? TBF Oct 2014 #6
what's on the cuff links? Enrique Oct 2014 #8
Yeah, I wanna know too! What's with the cuff links? lonestarnot Oct 2014 #10
Presidential Cufflinks given to him by the white house. Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #11
The Obama white house? lonestarnot Oct 2014 #12
Yes, he and Obama have a close relationship Autumn Oct 2014 #14
He's a 'savvy businessman', right? :P nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #26
We always sort of knew about Wall St. and Obama ozone_man Oct 2014 #57
They most closely resemble the Ronald Reagan Edition NorthCarolina Oct 2014 #21
Ding ding ding ...alarm bells have been ringing for a while now. L0oniX Oct 2014 #24
ah, thanks Enrique Oct 2014 #16
For $95 bucks you can get a pair too.... Historic NY Oct 2014 #17
Thing is, little ole Jamie didn't have to buy his. Autumn Oct 2014 #28
I'm sure it is the purest coincidence that he wears those particular cufflinks QC Oct 2014 #31
The purest coincidence indeed. Autumn Oct 2014 #34
by dead Ronald Reagan? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #51
Ronnie is still dead, has been for years. Autumn Oct 2014 #52
exactly.....but it doesn't mean that he didn't give him those cufflinks when he wasn't VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #53
Ronnie is still dead, has been for years. Autumn Oct 2014 #54
Thank GOD! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #56
Yep. Nice little message from Dimon there. Marr Oct 2014 #32
Pulling Rank Octafish Oct 2014 #35
The message those cufflinks sent came through loud and clear. Autumn Oct 2014 #58
Now if you or I ran a scam, would we be Skidmore Oct 2014 #9
You expect something different from dead intern guy? lonestarnot Oct 2014 #13
4 Banks, Including JPMorgan, Fined in Europe Over ‘Cartel’ Behavior Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #15
Excellent. Monopolies work to destroy the free market. closeupready Oct 2014 #19
Ah yes, CNBC Oilwellian Oct 2014 #18
A safe harbor or a safety net for Phlem Oct 2014 #20
Safety nets are for the proles gratuitous Oct 2014 #22
America's new Royalty. Royal persons are not subject to the laws the common people are sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #23
it was really that twat Lord North that managed to piss everyone off MisterP Oct 2014 #30
See how fast you get piled on here though if you question Chelsea Clinton MattBaggins Oct 2014 #43
Facts are facts. So I don't really buy into 'we only point fingers at the other team' routine. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #47
Facts are facts. So I don't really buy into 'we only point fingers at the other team' routine. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #47
The biggest joke is calling America a meritocracy MattBaggins Oct 2014 #44
He's like Bizarro Superman of the Bizarro Justice League. nt raouldukelives Oct 2014 #25
sandy weill (dimon's mentor): "i believe in nepotism" unblock Oct 2014 #27
They could not survive without enablers. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #37
Theyre just begging for the tumbrels hifiguy Oct 2014 #29
a Great Shortening would certainly cause him to change his view. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #38
Oh, whew! jmondine Oct 2014 #33
I wonder how the Reagan administration would have reacted to comments like these... cascadiance Oct 2014 #36
find a safe harbor=buy the politicians to create laws that will protect them from prosecution. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #39
Well Jamie the Macquarie Harbour Penal Station has been closed for some years now... bluesbassman Oct 2014 #40
He has no reason to worry, the government clearly demonstrated it cares much more Rex Oct 2014 #41
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #45
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #46
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #49
What, your bought politicians haven't created a safe enough harbor... polichick Oct 2014 #50
I won't believe in justice Warpy Oct 2014 #55
+1 woo me with science Oct 2014 #59

TBF

(32,062 posts)
6. Got your card ready this year Jamie?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:59 AM
Oct 2014

I so enjoyed last years ... Lord, what a tone-deaf imbecile this man is.


Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. Presidential Cufflinks given to him by the white house.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:53 AM
Oct 2014

He flashed them on purpose during his senate hearing.

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
57. We always sort of knew about Wall St. and Obama
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:11 PM
Oct 2014

But giving presidential cufflinks to Jamie Dimon is special.

QC

(26,371 posts)
31. I'm sure it is the purest coincidence that he wears those particular cufflinks
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:19 PM
Oct 2014

when he testifies before Congress.

Complete and total coincidence.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
9. Now if you or I ran a scam, would we be
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:41 AM
Oct 2014

given a safe harbor. Jamie Dimon deserves to be Bernie Madoff's cellmate.

Every time I see Dimon's name, I remember some years back that Joe Scarborough was pushing him as a possible nominee for the R Presidential ticket. Scarborough is always enamored of this type of person.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. 4 Banks, Including JPMorgan, Fined in Europe Over ‘Cartel’ Behavior
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:03 AM
Oct 2014

LONDON – The European Commission on Tuesday fined four major financial institutions 93.9 million euros, or about $120 million, over two types of activity that it deemed as cartel behavior.

In one case, the European Commission fined JPMorgan Chase €61.7 million euros for manipulating the Swiss franc Libor benchmark interest rate in an “illegal bilateral cartel” with the Royal Bank of Scotland. R.B.S., however, was granted immunity and avoided a fine of €110 million after it revealed the existence of the cartel to the commission.

“Anti-cartel enforcement is a top priority for the commission and no sector is exempt, including the financial sector,” the European Union said in a statement.

Interest-rate derivatives – such as forward rate agreements, swaps, futures and options – are financial products intended to help manage interest-rate fluctuations. In December 2013, the European Union fined several global financial institutions a combined €1.7 billion to settle charges that they colluded to fix benchmark interest rates.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/10/21/4-banks-including-jpmorgan-fined-in-europe-over-cartel-behavior/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. Excellent. Monopolies work to destroy the free market.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:16 AM
Oct 2014

I hope they destroy the monopolies (and cartels) that operate stateside. K&R

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
18. Ah yes, CNBC
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:14 AM
Oct 2014

Where the thieves openly boast of their crimes.



I remember the Dimon cufflink incident very well. Another bit of honesty for a brief moment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Safety nets are for the proles
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:30 AM
Oct 2014

Dimon and his pals are cutting those to pieces as fast as they can. No, Dimon needs a safe harbor; where else are you going to dock a yacht?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. America's new Royalty. Royal persons are not subject to the laws the common people are
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:35 AM
Oct 2014

subject to.

But, wasn't there a Revolution against royal rule in this country?

If we actually lived in a democracy, Jaimie would be in jail along with many of his partners in crime.

Such a sense of entitlement. Naturally he approves of the Royal practice of 'sons and daughters inheriting their royal positions'.

Democracy, 'land of the free, home of the brave'. Nice words if they actually meant something.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
43. See how fast you get piled on here though if you question Chelsea Clinton
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:12 AM
Oct 2014

and her job.

She is entitled to it it would seem.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. Facts are facts. So I don't really buy into 'we only point fingers at the other team' routine.
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:50 PM
Oct 2014

The truth is that the children of the privileged receive privileges ordinary people do not receive. And that is wrong, regardless of which team you are on.

That is what I meant by royalty. They are ENTITLED.

It must be a heady thing for those who get into that small inner circle and suddenly find themselves part of the Global Royalty. Even if they came from humble backgrounds, and originally had good intentions, it's easy to become spoiled, to think of oneself as 'above' others.

And that is why the FFs warned against this very thing, allowing anyone to accumulate so much power they become corrupted by it. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said the people should not even trust HIM or the other FFs with that kind of power.

But here we are and hopefully it won't take another revolution to once again free the country from Royal Oppression.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. Facts are facts. So I don't really buy into 'we only point fingers at the other team' routine.
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:50 PM
Oct 2014

The truth is that the children of the privileged receive privileges ordinary people do not receive. And that is wrong, regardless of which team you are on.

That is what I meant by royalty. They are ENTITLED.

It must be a heady thing for those who get into that small inner circle and suddenly find themselves part of the Global Royalty. Even if they came from humble backgrounds, and originally had good intentions, it's easy to become spoiled, to think of oneself as 'above' others.

And that is why the FFs warned against this very thing, allowing anyone to accumulate so much power they become corrupted by it. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said the people should not even trust HIM or the other FFs with that kind of power.

But here we are and hopefully it won't take another revolution to once again free the country from Royal Oppression.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
27. sandy weill (dimon's mentor): "i believe in nepotism"
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 01:08 PM
Oct 2014

i kid you not, this was, verbatim, in an orientation film when i went to work for smith barney, around 1995 give or take.

weill said that he believed in nepotism, hire your family and the friends and people you know because these are the people you can trust.

unbelievable. my gut told me to quit on the spot, red lights flashing all over the place, but i figured there were like 8 levels of management between me and him so whatever. turns out the entire management was thoroughly corrupt and idiocy and assholery reigned. eventually i got screwed over after a car accident, learned my lesson, very expensive. horrible management at the top breeds a horrible management culture that takes over the entire company.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. They could not survive without enablers.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 04:41 PM
Oct 2014

THEY know this, which is why they so aggressively go after the messengers, the Whistle Blowers. Discredit them and, they believe, they are warding off the inevitable.

When everyone refuses to excuse and 'explain' the corruption, things will change. But so far, they have used the 'your team' 'my team' tactic to ensure their survival. Which is why I blame the enablers more than the perps themselves.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. Theyre just begging for the tumbrels
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 01:26 PM
Oct 2014

and guillotine at this point, aren't they? "We are entitled to steal as much as we wish, because we are rich."

jmondine

(1,649 posts)
33. Oh, whew!
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:43 PM
Oct 2014

I saw my initials in the title and thought, "What corruption, and who wants to punish me for it?"

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
36. I wonder how the Reagan administration would have reacted to comments like these...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 04:11 PM
Oct 2014

... during the Savings and Loan crisis back in the day when banksters were punished with jail time instead of slaps on the wrist that he seems so adamant in complaining about!

We should be reforming the corruption laws so that people can be sentenced for previous laws on the books, if it can be shown that those that committed offenses to those previous crimes now have been a factor in corrupting politicians from taking those older laws down that bums like these obviously have wanted to and have since broken. So much of this corruption of theirs of our laws and using things like statutes of limitations have allowed these corrupt criminals go scot free every day now, when they should be behind bars.

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
40. Well Jamie the Macquarie Harbour Penal Station has been closed for some years now...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:43 PM
Oct 2014

But perhaps it could be reopened for you and your friends to be harbored safely.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. He has no reason to worry, the government clearly demonstrated it cares much more
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:52 PM
Oct 2014

about huge financial institutions than the laws they break on a daily basis. He knows that he is untouchable and can say what he wants without fear of reprisal.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
50. What, your bought politicians haven't created a safe enough harbor...
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:43 PM
Oct 2014

at the expense of the American people and the Constitution!?

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
55. I won't believe in justice
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:03 PM
Oct 2014

until I see Dimon and Blankfein fighting over a mildewed weenie out of a dumpster.

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