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Toon: Desperate people (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2014 OP
Great cartoon Gothmog Oct 2014 #1
The rulers have played us like a fiddle Doctor_J Oct 2014 #2
One solution: UNION! Something people can do together! mountain grammy Oct 2014 #3
+1 whereisjustice Oct 2014 #12
As I've been saying for several years now... world wide wally Oct 2014 #4
It's the nature of history Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #5
They learned from the mistakes they made in 1929... Blanks Oct 2014 #6
TV is what concerns me Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #7
The right movement just hasn't come along yet... Blanks Oct 2014 #8
I read about that awhile ago - the thesis that these things come in about 80-year cycles. calimary Oct 2014 #9
Got it in one Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #10
People generally live to 80. The generation who remembers is dead. So the children of the criminals Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #11
kick and rec woo me with science Oct 2014 #13
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
2. The rulers have played us like a fiddle
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:51 PM
Oct 2014

And their propagandists have the idiots begging for more.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
4. As I've been saying for several years now...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:07 PM
Oct 2014

They want an aristocracy and a working class just like in a Charles Dickens novel. I am sure their only regret is that it is not happening fast enough.

Who are "they"? Republicans at the bidding of their corporate masters, of course.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
5. It's the nature of history
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:22 PM
Oct 2014

The rich push too far and crash the system, the poor demand reforms, those who experienced it die off and the new generation starts eroding the reforms. It's no coincidence that the trickle-down theory and the idea that poverty is a moral issue, last seen in the Gilded Age, came back into fashion just as the people who remembered the Crash of 29 started dying off in large numbers.

All of this has happened before, all of it will happen again. Which is, admittedly, small comfort to those living through it.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
6. They learned from the mistakes they made in 1929...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:42 PM
Oct 2014

This time they crashed the economy just before the democrats took over, and created an 'alternate reality' news so that the blame didn't fall square on the republican shoulders.

They don't want their followers familiar with history, but I expect that they have a handle on it.

It's sadly quite clever.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
7. TV is what concerns me
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:45 PM
Oct 2014

I have a horrible suspicion that this time, the plebs are too placated by mindless pablum to revolt.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
8. The right movement just hasn't come along yet...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:52 PM
Oct 2014

TV is getting so crappy these days that I think that most folks would be glad to just walk away from it.

It would probably have to wait until after football season though.

calimary

(81,295 posts)
9. I read about that awhile ago - the thesis that these things come in about 80-year cycles.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:55 PM
Oct 2014

For EXACTLY the ways and means that you described here, Prophet 451. Eighty years - presumably the time it takes for, say, those who lived through the Great Depression in the last century, saw the need for what FDR brought us with the New Deal, and saw the benefits and how that helped dig us out of the economic mess - AND get through the war. Then those benefits bore fruit. All the GIs came back and got benefits and a helping hand and built families and neighborhoods and new lives - and then aged and began dying off. Meantime, their kids grew up wondering what all the fuss was about and would look around and say - "problems? WHAT problems?" And there would begin the drumbeat along the lines of "we don't NEED any new laws to fix this problem or prevent the problem from returning and blah-blah-blah..." and "oh, that's old news" or "but it's all okay now, problem solved, we can move on to something else now." Which turns into - "let's all deregulate! Guvmnt BAAAAAD! Git the gummnt off yer back!" And one by one the regulations and restrictions and infrastructure are all slowly whittled away - until the protections are gone, and the problems that begat the Great Depression start cranking back up again. Only rougher and costlier this time.

Kinda like bugs. They find a way into your house and start spreading. You have to take action to get rid of them - and preferably KEEP them from coming back in. You can't just assume the problem's licked and that's that, party on, we don't need that action to keep the bugs out anymore. Bug problem? WHAT bug problem? Oh, that's solved! But when you let up, or give up, or get lazy, or distracted, or move on to something else, just watch. Soon you'll have a bug infestation again - maybe worse than the earlier one.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
10. Got it in one
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 07:04 PM
Oct 2014

I read a post earlier, quoting a Republican source, that used "Keynesian" in scare quotes as a snarl word. Keynes ideas work, always have, but teh right is so devoted to trickle-down and the plotocracy that they can't even leave reality alone.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
11. People generally live to 80. The generation who remembers is dead. So the children of the criminals
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 07:12 PM
Oct 2014

who created the crash are beholden to create the next 80 year crash.

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