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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:28 PM Apr 2012

PPP: Obama doing well in Florida

Obama doing well in Florida

Barack Obama starts the general election with a 5 point advantage over Mitt Romney in Florida, 50-45. This is the biggest lead Obama's had in Florida over the course of five polls PPP's done in the state since the beginning of 2011.

The main reason for Obama's enhanced standing in the state is that his own popularity is on the rise. 51% of voters now approve of him to 45% who disapprove. His numbers with Republicans are unchanged from the last time we polled the state but he's now getting strong marks from independents (57/37, up from 43/50) and Democrats are unifying around him as the general election approaches (he's at 86/11, up from 73/20).

In the head to head with Romney Obama wins independents 53-34, while each candidate gets a pretty even amount of support from his own party with Obama at 84% of the Democratic vote and Romney at 83% of the GOP vote. Obama is up 69-21 with young voters and 52-37 with Hispanics.

We also looked at how four prominent Florida Republicans- Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Allen West, and Rick Scott- might affect the race as Vice Presidential candidates. Only Bush has a positive impact for Romney, bringing the race within three points at 49-46. Bush continues to be a popular figure in the state with 52% of voters viewing him favorably to 40% with a negative opinion.

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/04/obama-doing-well-in-florida.html



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PPP: Obama doing well in Florida (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2012 OP
K/R Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #1
Ditto! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #2
Almost the same as in NC unc70 Apr 2012 #3
PPP is a very reliable poster. aaaaaa5a Apr 2012 #11
Good news! Scurrilous Apr 2012 #4
What the hell is going on with Gallup? Mr.Turnip Apr 2012 #5
Gallup heavily oversamples Republicans. TheWraith Apr 2012 #19
But what do we know? We're all just a bunch of crazed whackos. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #6
Rick Scott. He was great in Max Headroom... SidDithers Apr 2012 #7
I liked Matt Frewer better. Rick Scott is like one of the bad Dr. Who replacements. Liberal Veteran Apr 2012 #9
Oh, they like him.... BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #13
Romney loses Florida, he loses the election. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #8
Great news but remember to keep fighting aaaaaa5a Apr 2012 #10
Damn Right..... BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #14
Don't Count on Florida. BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #12
I too am skeptical about F-L-A peace frog Apr 2012 #15
Actually we don't even need Ohio. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #16
Nevada's a No, New Hampshire will be very tough BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #22
Florida will be stolen DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #17
It's easier to list the states that Obama will win. Safetykitten Apr 2012 #18
I think you're on the wrong website. TheWraith Apr 2012 #21
You're either a right-winger, completely stupid, or BOTH BlueDemKev May 2012 #23
His map is more forgiving than Romney's SoCalDem Apr 2012 #20

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
11. PPP is a very reliable poster.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:10 PM
Apr 2012

They were nearly spot on for most nights during the GOP primary. They were also very good at spotting early trends that other polls picked up on weeks if not months later.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
5. What the hell is going on with Gallup?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

Even Ras, which is one of the few other polls showing Romney leading nationally at the moment showed that narrowing today, but Gallup shows Romney +5, out of line with even the polls that show Romney leading and out of line with every poll of various swing states in the last months.

Are they seriously using a model based on the 2010 elections? can they really be so stupid as to assume that the 2012 electorate will look like a midterm electorate?

Also I laugh at Rubio's fail in this poll.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
19. Gallup heavily oversamples Republicans.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:28 AM
Apr 2012

They have for years, not least because it's a Republican-run outfit.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,197 posts)
6. But what do we know? We're all just a bunch of crazed whackos.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:29 PM
Apr 2012


I have to laugh at the thought of Romney choosing Rick Scott as his running mate. Republicans don't even like Rick Scott.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
9. I liked Matt Frewer better. Rick Scott is like one of the bad Dr. Who replacements.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:08 PM
Apr 2012

Or Greedo shooting first in the bar scene with Han Solo.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
13. Oh, they like him....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apr 2012

....it's just that even Republicans have been impacted by Scott's deep spending cuts. Conservatives' idea of cutting spending has always meant "cut somebody else's" spending....the spending that benefits me of course is vital!"

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
10. Great news but remember to keep fighting
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:09 PM
Apr 2012

I may post this every time there is a positive poll regarding the election.



BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
14. Damn Right.....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:32 PM
Apr 2012

....this election won't be decided until Election Day (IF THEN!). I truly believe we're heading for another Bush-Gore election with the deciding state being Ohio.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
12. Don't Count on Florida.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:28 PM
Apr 2012

That is my home state and can assure you it's a tough nut to crack. Even in 2008, the greatest year for Democrats since perhaps 1932, we only won the state by 2.7 percent.

The problem with Florida is the demographics of the entire state. While there is a heavy liberal population in South Florida which more than offsets the 100% conservative rural areas, it is virtually offset by 1) the Cuban voters in Miami, and 2) the conservative retirees along the I-4 corridor. Also, the entire panhandle from Jacksonville and Pensacola (with the exception of Tallahassee, whose population isn't that large) is solidly conservative. The Republicans have had huge majorities in both houses of the state legislature for well over a decade now, and I don't believe there's more than one statewide office there that is occupied by a Democrat.

I'm not writing off Florida yet, but it would be a mistake to focus too much of our resources there and risk losing Ohio or Colorado, both of which are must-win states for us and are more within our reach, IMHO.

I believe these are the states we MUST win to get over 270: (The "Big 6&quot

Ohio
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
Minnesota
New Mexico
Colorado

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
15. I too am skeptical about F-L-A
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:37 PM
Apr 2012

FL always falls within the margin of error on election day making it impossible to predict. Not to mention, easier to steal. Remember 2000.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
16. Actually we don't even need Ohio.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:03 PM
Apr 2012

As long as Obama takes NV, CO, NM, PA, IA, MN, WI and NH, all very winnable, he can afford to lose OH, along with VA, NC, and FL. I agree that Florida won't be easy, Romney probably has more appeal to voters here than McCain ever did, but i do think the Obama campaign should put as many resources as they can here since it would basically be Romney's waterloo. It'll be close either way.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
22. Nevada's a No, New Hampshire will be very tough
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:11 AM
Apr 2012

Nevada is way to conservative and the state's high unemployment won't help the incumbent. Remember, that state came very close to electing a total nutcase to the Senate two years ago to replace their incumbent senator who happened to be the Senate Leader! If Sharron Angle had not run her mouth so much, she would have won that race. (God, I still remember that hateful "autism" speech she gave, fucking bitch!)

New Hampshire is in play, but it will be extremely tough to win. It's the most conservative state in New England and Romney is quite popular there. Lots of independent "swing" voters live there, also. Same thing in Iowa. We might pull it off, but it's always close and I don't think we can count on it this year.

Ohio is definitely ground zero this year. We must have a solid ground game there and our GOTV efforts in the Buckeye state must be perfect. We may also want to try and get a voter registration drive going in the heavy African-American population in the Cleveland area which I understand rarely gets involved in elections (I don't know why that is, but it's extremely unfortunate. I canvassed in Ohio during the Bush-Kerry race in 2004, and if we had gotten more voters registered in Cleveland (and gotten them to the polls), John Kerry would have been president.

Again, the "Big 6", the states we MUST win are.....

OHIO (18)
PENNSYLVANIA (20)
MICHIGAN (16)
WISCONSIN (10)
MINNESOTA (10)
COLORADO (9)

TOTAL: 83 EV's

Add that to the 191 EV's we should get from the Northeastern & Pacific states, plus Illinois & New Mexico, will put our electoral vote total at 274. Failure to win Ohio would mean we'd have to SWEEP Nevada, Iowa, and New Hampshire (an extremely tall order).

A CBS/NYTimes poll released this morning shows the race is tied nationally, 46%-46%. Given people's frustration with Obama mixed with their distrust of Romney, that is not at all surprising. Barring a major development, this will be an EXTREMELY close race with people changing their minds A LOT right up to when they step into the voting booth. It may be 2000 all over again.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
17. Florida will be stolen
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:08 AM
Apr 2012

But that does not mean the Dems should not send people down here so that the GOP can be CAUGHT.

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
18. It's easier to list the states that Obama will win.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:11 AM
Apr 2012

New York
California
Illinois
DC
Wisconsin

That's it.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
21. I think you're on the wrong website.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:37 AM
Apr 2012

And if you seriously believe that, when Obama's up over Romney in Colorado and North Carolina, then you have not been paying attention at all.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
23. You're either a right-winger, completely stupid, or BOTH
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:53 AM
May 2012

Romney doesn't have a prayer in his own home state, Massachusetts, nor is he going to win Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, or Vermont. Moving out of his home region, Romney will also lose New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii. Those states, plus the ones you listed above, will put Obama at over 250 electoral votes, with at the most 20 more needed to win.

The Etch-a-sketch has got his work cut out for him. In addition to Ohio, Colorado, and Nevada, traditionally-conservative states of Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida are also in play.

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