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JCMach1

(27,572 posts) Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:48 PM Apr 2012

Boeing will outsource key Dreamliner components to the UAE

So much for American jobs... major sections of the Dreamliner (787) will be built by near slave labor from the sub-continent in the UAE.

Mubadala Aerospace yesterday announced a US$1 billion (Dh3.67bn) contract to build major sections for the Boeing 777 and 787 Dreamliner airliners at its Strata Manufacturing plant in Al Ain.

The announcement, which dominated yesterday's Global Aerospace Summit in Abu Dhabi, makes Mubadala the Arab world's first direct supplier of composites to the US aircraft maker. Mubadala Aerospace is a division of Mubadala Development, a strategic investment company owned by the Abu Dhabi Government.

"Boeing and Mubadala Aerospace announce a 10-year direct contract for Strata Manufacturing, Mubadala Aerospace's advanced composite aerostructures facility in Al Ain, to produce commercial composite aerostructures for the 777 and 787 Dreamliner," the companies said.. http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/industry-insights/aviation/mubadala-in-1bn-deal-as-supplier-to-boeing

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Boeing will outsource key Dreamliner components to the UAE (Original Post) JCMach1 Apr 2012 OP

So how many Dreamliners will the UAE be buying now ? PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #1

Quite a few from the 2 Airlines Etihad and Emirates JCMach1 Apr 2012 #3

If this is an incentive (or deal) for them to buy more planes, the workers in the US may be pampango Apr 2012 #4

Again, pampango, does reality factor in? US workers are, in fact, NOT better off Romulox Apr 2012 #5

Those layoffs were due to reduced orders from the government for C-17 planes. pampango Apr 2012 #8

The answer is "a metric fuckload" Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #9

that's because no workers at Boeing plants in the US know how to make airplanes nt msongs Apr 2012 #2

Told you so. It's happening bit by bit. Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #6

I am afraid you might be right JCMach1 Apr 2012 #7

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

1. So how many Dreamliners will the UAE be buying now ?

Reply to JCMach1 (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:11 PM

Apr 2012

"a strategic investment company owned by the Abu Dhabi Government."

Bribes and kickbacks are illegal, but these types of manufacturing deals as an incentive for orders are not uncommon
and are apparently perfectly legal.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)

3. Quite a few from the 2 Airlines Etihad and Emirates

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:18 AM

Apr 2012

pampango

(24,692 posts)

4. If this is an incentive (or deal) for them to buy more planes, the workers in the US may be

Reply to JCMach1 (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:25 AM

Apr 2012

better off.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)

5. Again, pampango, does reality factor in? US workers are, in fact, NOT better off

Reply to pampango (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:30 AM

Apr 2012

One Day After Securing A Huge Deal With China, Boeing Lays Off 1000 American Workers

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-01-20/markets/30013620_1_american-workers-boeing-layoffs#ixzz1sPFlrbk5

pampango

(24,692 posts)

8. Those layoffs were due to reduced orders from the government for C-17 planes.

Reply to Romulox (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 03:08 PM

Apr 2012

Boeing plans to cut 900 from local C-17 workforce

Stung by dwindling domestic demand and efforts to slow production, Boeing said it plans to cut 900 more workers from its local C-17 workforce by late 2012.

"The C-17 program is an important economic asset for the State, the region, and the City. While Boeing's announcement today is difficult and disconcerting, it is not entirely unexpected, as the Federal government has decreased orders for this workhorse aircraft.

India and Kuwait have placed orders for a combined 11 C-17 s, and Boeing is reportedly talking with other nations that include Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Oman and South Africa.

If approved as expected in coming months, the deal with India's Air Force should keep Long Beach's C-17 production line humming through 2013 - only with a reduced workforce.

http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_17141501

It's not like the layoff you point out was of employees building the type of plane that China ordered (unless their military is ordering our C-17's now). When Boeing's sales of C-17's declines, they apparently can't employ as many people at the factory that produces C-17's. I'm not sure that is China's or Boeing fault. One would hope that the sale of planes to China and many other countries will employ many of these workers at Long Beach in other Boeing factories. I expect that C-17 sales are not going to increase any time soon (unless Mitt wins?) these employees best bet is in other Boeing factories since they have been hiring.

From what I can tell, a little less than half of Boeing's sales are exports. Taking out orders from our military orders (which will probably continue to decline - again, unless perhaps Mitt wins), well over half of their business is exports.

Apparently their workforce has increased since January 2011 from 161,740 to 172,186 last month. Of those American employment has gone from 133,121 to 139,615 - an increase of about 5,500 employees in the last 14 months. I don't know when delivery of the planes to China referenced in your OP begins, so I don't know if these employment gains are partially due to that or to other exports and domestic sales.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

9. The answer is "a metric fuckload"

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 03:24 PM

Apr 2012

Middle Eastern airlines are almost in position to completely dominate the industry and re-map the globe in a decade or so at the current rate...They've got complete cooperation with their governments, a near-bottomless pit of money, minimal labor costs and taxes and big, new airports with plenty of expansion space, if needed...

And they won't think twice about turning around and ordering a bunch of Airbuses if Boeing wants to get cute...

msongs

(67,439 posts)

2. that's because no workers at Boeing plants in the US know how to make airplanes nt

Reply to JCMach1 (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:39 PM

Apr 2012

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)

6. Told you so. It's happening bit by bit.

Reply to JCMach1 (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:51 PM

Apr 2012

Boeing has previously publicly stated they want to be come a "virtual" aircraft manufacturer. How much longer before the only Boeing employees in the US are in their corporate HQ in Chicagoland? I think their "right to work" plant in SC is but a waypoint to that goal.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)

7. I am afraid you might be right

Reply to Populist_Prole (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:56 PM

Apr 2012

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