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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:18 PM Nov 2014

If you'd like to have Soc Security one day, a Republican Senate will see that you DO NOT get it

I'm astonished that people are handing over their health care and retirement to the Tea Party/Kochs. But one thing we have in abundance in America is STUPID. It's propagated by the corporate-owned GOP-cheerleading media. Are Americans really THAT clueless?

YEP.

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If you'd like to have Soc Security one day, a Republican Senate will see that you DO NOT get it (Original Post) Triana Nov 2014 OP
Relax. MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #1
But what will happen when Obama's term is up, RebelOne Nov 2014 #2
LOL n/t Oilwellian Nov 2014 #3
The steps will be as in the past: GOP promotes severe cuts; closeupready Nov 2014 #5
Why, he hates Social Security, right? JoePhilly Nov 2014 #9
or Medicare HockeyMom Nov 2014 #4
Exactly. How damn DUMB can some voters be? Triana Nov 2014 #6
There's actually a related issue that will come up in 2016. toddwv Nov 2014 #7
Stop attributing Republican crimes to the American people. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #8
Since the OP is about the Senate, how does Gerrymandering affect the Senate? n/t hughee99 Nov 2014 #10
Because they wouldn't have the House if not for gerrymandering (and prison districting) True Blue Door Nov 2014 #11
The Senate doesn't seem to pass much anyway. hughee99 Nov 2014 #12
They'll do away with the filibuster so they can repeal Obamacare with 51. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #13
I've heard him say it. hughee99 Nov 2014 #14
The filibuster will be ancient history by Jan 22. world wide wally Nov 2014 #17
.... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #15
To answer your question: world wide wally Nov 2014 #16
K&R freshwest Nov 2014 #18
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
5. The steps will be as in the past: GOP promotes severe cuts;
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:35 PM
Nov 2014

Obama suggests meeting halfway between no cuts and severe cuts; GOP agrees to steep cuts, but complains bitterly about it; Obama claims victory; retirees graduate from cat food to road kill.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. Why, he hates Social Security, right?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

Clearly, if they send him that bill ... he's going to sign it, right?

Come on Manny ... make a prediction.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
6. Exactly. How damn DUMB can some voters be?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:39 PM
Nov 2014

Yea. I know. DAMN dumb. It's too bad America can't feed its people, light its homes and pay its bills with STUPID. Because we sure have a lot of it here.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
7. There's actually a related issue that will come up in 2016.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:04 PM
Nov 2014

Social Security disability trust fund projected to run out of cash by 2016

A government entitlement program is headed for insolvency in four years, and it’s not the one members of Congress are talking about most.

The Social Security disability program’s trust fund is projected to run out of cash far sooner than the better-known Social Security retirement plan or Medicare. That will trigger a 21 percent cut in benefits to 11 million Americans — people with disabilities, plus their spouses and children — many of whom rely on the program to stay out of poverty.

“It’s really striking how rapidly this is growing, how big it’s become and how D.C. is just afraid of it,” said Mark Duggan, a University of Pennsylvania economist and adviser to the Social Security Administration.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-disability-trust-fund-projected-to-run-out-of-cash-by-2016/2012/05/30/gJQA3AfH1U_story.html

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
8. Stop attributing Republican crimes to the American people.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:06 PM
Nov 2014

There would not have been a single Republican Congressional majority in the last thirty years if not for gerrymandering and prison districting - i.e., if the composition of our government directly reflected how people vote. And that would definitely have affected the politics of Presidential elections as well.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
11. Because they wouldn't have the House if not for gerrymandering (and prison districting)
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:35 PM
Nov 2014

and the Senate alone can't pass anything.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
12. The Senate doesn't seem to pass much anyway.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014

They seem to need 60 votes in the Senate to pass anything and even if the Republicans take the Senate, they STILL won't have 60 votes.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
13. They'll do away with the filibuster so they can repeal Obamacare with 51.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:39 PM
Nov 2014

McConnell has publicly said that's his intention.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
14. I've heard him say it.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

They still don't have the numbers to override a veto. I'm not saying it's not an issue for concern, but it won't happen in the next congress.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. ....
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:16 PM
Nov 2014
''Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.''

Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower


world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
16. To answer your question:
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:19 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, they are that stupid... But if you ask any one of them, they will tell you what a Constitutional lawyer they are... At least about the second amendment.

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