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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:25 PM Apr 2012

"He had 2 big butterfly bandages on the back of his head, & a big one on the bridge of his nose"

(CBS News) - According to his neighbors, George Zimmerman had bandages on his nose and head the day after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin on February 26th.

Zimmerman claims Martin jumped him, broke his nose and pounded his head into the ground inside a gated community in Sanford, Florida. He then fired one shot, hitting Martin in the chest because he feared for his life.

In a newly published report by Reuters, Zimmerman's next-door neighbor Jorge Rodriguez said that when he saw Zimmerman the day after the incident, "he had two big, butterfly bandages on the back of his head, and another big bandage...on the bridge of his nose," while he was talking to a police detective in his driveway. Rodriguez's wife Audria also said she saw the bandages and a third neighbor, who spoke only on condition of anonymity, said, "I saw two bandages on the back of his head, and his nose was all swollen-up."

The new accounts by Zimmerman's neighbors give support to his claims that he acted in self-defense. The extent of Zimmerman's injuries will now be critical to his defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law. It allows the use of deadly force when someone has the reasonable belief he could face death.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57415104-504083/george-zimmerman-had-bandages-on-nose-and-head-after-shooting-neighbors-say/


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"He had 2 big butterfly bandages on the back of his head, & a big one on the bridge of his nose" (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 OP
Note that CBS "news" Permanut Apr 2012 #1
I agree Permanut! If this was truly the case, you know they would have found the Ecumenist Apr 2012 #5
actually seeing how they are CBS, home of walter okieinpain Apr 2012 #26
Good reporting died many years ago. Angleae Apr 2012 #32
Yep...they took what three "neighbors" said at face value. USA! USA! Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #14
Assuming medical records exist, and assuming CBS tracked them down... -..__... Apr 2012 #22
and they removed them before he got to the police station? spanone Apr 2012 #2
The neighbors claimed to have seen them the day AFTER - Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #19
It matters little what someone says - were is the proof - pics, doctors visits, scars. jwirr Apr 2012 #3
funny how he didn't need them at the police station Skittles Apr 2012 #4
You shouldn't hunt down and assault teenagers who are trying to get away from you killbotfactory Apr 2012 #6
This. drm604 Apr 2012 #11
Isn't that the $64,000 question. MattBaggins Apr 2012 #12
I want to know why we're not seeing medical reports. drm604 Apr 2012 #7
Word has it, safeinOhio Apr 2012 #8
Looks as if he has improved since they had to carry him around on a stretcher! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #28
Wouldn't two scalp wounds requiring butterfly bandages bleed profusely? targetpractice Apr 2012 #9
Yea, from what I've heard Confusious Apr 2012 #20
No blood, no medical report, no grass or mud ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #27
LOL. I love what Angela Corey Did. This will now be decided in a court of law Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #10
My My, and this only comes out now?.... wandy Apr 2012 #13
Enhance gvstn Apr 2012 #25
You embeded just fine. Good explanation. wandy Apr 2012 #29
Another new story - TBF Apr 2012 #15
How'd he get them? They weren't there after treatment at the police station. sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #16
RiteAid, aisle 7. They were on sale. Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #17
So, why did he take them off before he got to the Police Station, and why can't we see any sign of leveymg Apr 2012 #18
While I am no doctor...wouldn't an X-ray show a recently broken nose? Earth_First Apr 2012 #21
I suspect there are to be many more such bandages in his future. Bandit Apr 2012 #23
George, you've done a terrible thing. You might still save your soul, if you tell the truth... Romulox Apr 2012 #24
So...I can harass..then stalk a kid walking home to his fathers house Lochloosa Apr 2012 #30
You can also keep stalking him after the cops tell you not to Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #31
The only way he can defend against charges is to be wounded - so he had someone hit him after he DeschutesRiver Apr 2012 #33

Permanut

(5,637 posts)
1. Note that CBS "news"
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:29 PM
Apr 2012

didn't bother to track down any medical reports. Or I should say attempt to track them down; I would bet $100 there aren't any.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
5. I agree Permanut! If this was truly the case, you know they would have found the
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:31 PM
Apr 2012

photos and records to prove their point, at least were it applies to having actual injuries.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
26. actually seeing how they are CBS, home of walter
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:52 PM
Apr 2012

cronkite you would think that would be the first thing they do. since when did a neighbor's statement become good enough to report without any facts to back it up.

Angleae

(4,493 posts)
32. Good reporting died many years ago.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:02 AM
Apr 2012

Now days it's all about sensationalism. How fast can they get a headline that will grap people's attention. The body of the article is irrelevant to them.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
14. Yep...they took what three "neighbors" said at face value. USA! USA!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:44 PM
Apr 2012

I especially like the way they say it could affect the outcome of teh case. Not without medical records!

 

-..__...

(7,776 posts)
22. Assuming medical records exist, and assuming CBS tracked them down...
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:31 PM
Apr 2012

it would be illegal and unethical for any hospital/attending physician to even let reporters view them.

If any records were leaked... CBS would be in deep shit for releasing them.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
19. The neighbors claimed to have seen them the day AFTER -
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:16 PM
Apr 2012

the shooting and after we saw him in the police video.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
7. I want to know why we're not seeing medical reports.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:34 PM
Apr 2012

Surely Zimmerman would allow them to be released if they backup his version of events.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
9. Wouldn't two scalp wounds requiring butterfly bandages bleed profusely?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:35 PM
Apr 2012

Especially, before applying such bandages?

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
20. Yea, from what I've heard
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

His neighbors probably aren't lying. Zimmerman probably put them on and then walked around so people would see him.

He would have also had blood everywhere in the police video.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
27. No blood, no medical report, no grass or mud
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:02 PM
Apr 2012

not even an untucked shirt == no injuries, IMO. Somebody is lying their ass off. And I don't think it's the police video we saw.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
10. LOL. I love what Angela Corey Did. This will now be decided in a court of law
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:35 PM
Apr 2012

not the court of public opinion. When it comes to those "injuries", he better have hospital records or EMS records indicating a broken nose and significant injuries. My hunch is that those records don't exist.

What idiots like Joe Oliver, Zimmy's dad or Zimmy's friends think is irrelevant.

This is now in the court of law.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
13. My My, and this only comes out now?....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:39 PM
Apr 2012

I guess the 'enhanced', 'enhanced' video will show those butterflies............



Wonder what we are being sold here.

Dam I can't wait for the movie.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
25. Enhance
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:50 PM
Apr 2012

Don't know how to embed videos but I think this is the one to use whenever you talk about video enhancement.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
15. Another new story -
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:47 PM
Apr 2012

I love how they keep coming up with new explanations. It will be interesting to see if there is evidence to back up ANY of them ...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
18. So, why did he take them off before he got to the Police Station, and why can't we see any sign of
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:10 PM
Apr 2012

his wounding in the normal (unaltered) security cam footage?

This raises some serious questions about the credibility of the neighbor and about the MSM who are desperately trying to make this go away without Zimmerman actually having to "go away."

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
21. While I am no doctor...wouldn't an X-ray show a recently broken nose?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:25 PM
Apr 2012

I'll even pay out of my own pocket for the X-ray to be taken...

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
23. I suspect there are to be many more such bandages in his future.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:44 PM
Apr 2012

There are a lot of people that just don't like that guy and are quite likely to express their dislike in a physical manner...

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
24. George, you've done a terrible thing. You might still save your soul, if you tell the truth...
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:49 PM
Apr 2012

Maybe even heal this nation (a tiny bit...)

Lochloosa

(16,068 posts)
30. So...I can harass..then stalk a kid walking home to his fathers house
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:48 PM
Apr 2012

Cut him off "at the pass" and when he starts kicking my ass, kill him.

Got it. Works for me

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
31. You can also keep stalking him after the cops tell you not to
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:53 PM
Apr 2012

It will be interesting to see what Zimmerman's attorney can actually "prove."

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
33. The only way he can defend against charges is to be wounded - so he had someone hit him after he
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:04 AM
Apr 2012

left the police station. People do stuff like this all the time - for insurance fraud, to concoct a better story for themselves to get out of punishment for a crime, etc. People have falsified a ton of things since the start of time in order to get themselves out of a jam.

I saw the video at the police station, and it was a big old zero on the injury scale. So if it wasn't until the next day that he had bandages AND a swollen nose, then he had someone (a friend, or probably his dad) pop him a few times that first night, in order to make it appear as though he was attacked by poor Trayvon. A guy like Zimmerman probably thought the pain was worth the price if it can help him avoid a long prison term.

Heck, I've read about guys who've cut off a hand or foot for less of a reason (insurance fraud). So it is plausible in my mind.

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