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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:22 AM Nov 2014

The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy



39 years ago today.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her
They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
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The lake it is said never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy (Original Post) Recursion Nov 2014 OP
Gitche Gumee liberal N proud Nov 2014 #1
Makes me cry every time. Nay Nov 2014 #2
Thanks for the post. ctsnowman Nov 2014 #3
Thank you - Requiem for the Rust Belt - hedgehog Nov 2014 #4
I remember it as though it were just yesterday. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #5
I remember so well... ewagner Nov 2014 #6
Wow Recursion Nov 2014 #7
love this song heaven05 Nov 2014 #8
The song 90-percent Nov 2014 #9
A friend of mine on Facebook just said something like that Recursion Nov 2014 #10
I didn't know that it happened d_r Nov 2014 #28
I think that's part of Lightfoot's skill Recursion Nov 2014 #30
Same here. Codeine Nov 2014 #11
Same for me! Phentex Nov 2014 #31
Edmund Fitzgerald and my Father Rebubula Nov 2014 #12
Thanks for sharing this with us. beemer27 Nov 2014 #13
Good story. (eom) CanSocDem Nov 2014 #14
. AllyCat Nov 2014 #17
...sigh n/t ejbr Nov 2014 #19
Thank you so much for sharing that Recursion Nov 2014 #20
beautiful memory... thanks for sharing. mountain grammy Nov 2014 #25
thanks for sharing that d_r Nov 2014 #29
A LOT of Lightfoot's songs were deeply moving. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #15
Yes! I saw him a couple of years ago and he was still great. n/t whathehell Nov 2014 #23
I posted this video to Facebook TNNurse Nov 2014 #16
We saw Gordon sing this in person just a couple months ago in concert Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #18
Oh wow. Recursion Nov 2014 #22
G.L. I had this 45 when I was a kid... paparush Nov 2014 #21
Same here. I was a sailor for a while Recursion Nov 2014 #24
What a great video! JEFF9K Nov 2014 #26
Was privileged to see and hear Gordon Lightfoot in concert. joshdawg Nov 2014 #27
I was a Freshman at the U of Michigan jimlup Nov 2014 #32
She was found and her bell recovered oneshooter Nov 2014 #33
It's Gordon Lightfoot's masterpiece. Liberal In Texas Nov 2014 #34
Just happened to be in Duluth that day and went for a drive. We stopped at the lift bridge for jwirr Nov 2014 #35
There was a bar in Madison WI that I used to go to years ago dgauss Nov 2014 #36
Knew someone in the Coast Guard who was involved in the search. greatlaurel Nov 2014 #37

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. Thank you - Requiem for the Rust Belt -
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:07 AM
Nov 2014

Death of a steel mill -



Although - look closely - see the wind turbines going p in the distance - Buffalo's starting to look a little more lively these days.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
5. I remember it as though it were just yesterday.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:08 AM
Nov 2014

My cousin, Mike, was working as a deckhand on various Lake Superior ore freighters, at the time. Scared my family half to death.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
6. I remember so well...
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:10 AM
Nov 2014

I was in Ashland, Wisconsin for the first time ever that night...I watched on TV as a TV Weatherman from Duluth announced with fear and trepidation that the Ore Carrier Anderson had lost radar contact with the Fitzgerald.

The horror of the storm and the loss became clear the next morning. I had spent the night in Mellen, Wisconsin 25 miles south of Ashland in the beautiful Penokee range and woke up to 12 inches of snow courtesy of the storm that sank the Fitzgerald.

I remember years later sailing on Lake Superior in a 36' sailboat ...listening to the Duluth radio station..as the fog and mist of early evening started to settle in, the radio played the Gordon Lightfoot tribute to the Fitzgerald..the hair on the back of my neck stood up.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Wow
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:11 AM
Nov 2014

I've never sailed on the lakes, just from Baltimore. But that description brought chills to me, too. Thanks so much for posting that.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
9. The song
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:35 AM
Nov 2014

Marks time in my life as a youth. I did not know until decades later that Gordon released the song perhaps less than a year after the accident. Coulda been from the 1800's for all I knew, or even completely fictional.

Thanks. Bittersweet memories of my youth.

-90% Jimmy

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. A friend of mine on Facebook just said something like that
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:36 AM
Nov 2014

She was 3 or 4 when the Fitzgerald went down, and didn't know until recently that it had happened within her lifetime. The song does sound very timeless.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
28. I didn't know that it happened
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:14 AM
Nov 2014

in my lifetime until just now. I guess the style of the song always made it sound like something that happened a long time ago.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
30. I think that's part of Lightfoot's skill
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:16 AM
Nov 2014

First off, he just has a style that sounds kind of timeless, but he really brought out the eternal parts of this story with his amazing fitting of the lyrics to the tune.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. Same here.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:39 AM
Nov 2014

I was a kid, totally oblivious to how recent the incident had been. It wasn't until I was in my thirties that I learned the details.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
31. Same for me!
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:20 AM
Nov 2014

I always thought it was from an earlier time. I was much older when I realized it was from the 70's!

It's a song I can help but listen to when it comes on.

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
12. Edmund Fitzgerald and my Father
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:42 AM
Nov 2014

When I was growing up, I would listen to music with my father (parents divorced when I was an infant - father lived far away so time together was special) and he loved softer music and this was our favorite. He had the tape of 'Gord's Gold' and we would rewind and repeat the song on our drives,

In October of 1991 (after highschool, I moved in with him) , he was diagnosed with late stage small cell cancer of the lungs. Chemo started right away. He wasted away and was not eating due to the chemo. One night I came to the house with a bag of decent reefer (well...decent for the times and East Coast - well before Medical MJ was a real thing) and he and I smoked up a nice joint. We put The Wreck of Edmund Fitzgerald (Dammit.....crying now as I type.....) and listened to it 4-5 times as we discussed life, weed and a host of other things - anything other than his impending death. That night, he ate a steak and lobster meal - 1st meal he kept down in a month. It is my last good memory of him.

He died in May of 1992.

In 1996, I went to see Gordon at Wolftrap (Northern VA) and he played the Wreck before the 1st set break. As the lights came up, I dried my eyes and left --- I had what I came for....one last night of hearing that song with my old man (my father loved seeing shows at Wolftap).

So, for me, that Churchbell chimes 40 times....

beemer27

(460 posts)
13. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014

I will never hear this song without thinking of your post, and your father. Sometimes it is hard to share these kind of memories, but you will usually feel better after you have let others see it thru your eyes. Thanks again.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. A LOT of Lightfoot's songs were deeply moving.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:05 AM
Nov 2014

And still are, to me, all these years later.
I still have many of his albums, now in cd format.
The wreck of the Fitzgerald is a finely crafted tune, indeed.

TNNurse

(6,928 posts)
16. I posted this video to Facebook
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:07 AM
Nov 2014

Thanks for the reminder. I think it makes history ( and not ancient history) a little more personal.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
18. We saw Gordon sing this in person just a couple months ago in concert
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:09 AM
Nov 2014

It was terrific.

We also saw some history of the wreck here: http://www.goduluthmn.com/duluth-maritime-museum.html

The Edmund Fitzgerald
Popular among the visitors is the story of the Edmund Fitzgerald, a Lake Superior freighter that was taken by a fierce storm on November 10th, 1975. It departed from the Duluth Superior port and headed for Detroit, but near Whitefish Point, the ship went down. All 29 crew members aboard perished. A famous song depicting the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, “The Gales of November” was written and sung by Gordon Lightfoot.

K&R!

OS

paparush

(7,964 posts)
21. G.L. I had this 45 when I was a kid...
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:27 AM
Nov 2014

Wore the damn thing out.

Song still gives me chills some 45+ years later.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
24. Same here. I was a sailor for a while
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:32 AM
Nov 2014

Mostly in the Chesapeake, but once you're out of sight of land, it's kind of all the same from an emotional standpoint....

joshdawg

(2,651 posts)
27. Was privileged to see and hear Gordon Lightfoot in concert.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:53 AM
Nov 2014

This was one of the tunes he performed. Still brings chills.
Many thanks for posting this!
K&R!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
32. I was a Freshman at the U of Michigan
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 06:40 PM
Nov 2014

I remember the event but will admit to being more than a little distracted at the time. This song brings back the years that followed. Thanks for posting.

Liberal In Texas

(13,559 posts)
34. It's Gordon Lightfoot's masterpiece.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:51 PM
Nov 2014

And prompted me once to visit the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point Michigan which has a Fitz exhibit. Way off the beaten path, but a fascinating place to go visit if you're ever in the area.

http://www.shipwreckmuseum.com/

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. Just happened to be in Duluth that day and went for a drive. We stopped at the lift bridge for
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:18 PM
Nov 2014

a boat to pass through. It was the Edmond Fitzgerald. Hours later we listened on the radio about the storm and that she was caught in it.

dgauss

(882 posts)
36. There was a bar in Madison WI that I used to go to years ago
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:38 PM
Nov 2014

that had a sort of tradition. It had lights that hung from cords above the bar and whenever this song came on the jukebox the bartender would gently start those lights swinging from side to side. I remember being in there on cold winter nights, late, when everyone was getting pretty warmed up and invariably someone would play that song and the lights would start swinging. It wasn't gimmicky or schmaltzy. It seemed like everyone felt a kind of reverence. It would always be the same. It was a powerful song.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
37. Knew someone in the Coast Guard who was involved in the search.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:20 PM
Nov 2014

All those fellows were pretty shook up about the loss of the Fitzgerald. They just could not get there quick enough. In water that cold, someone has just a very few minutes before hypothermia sets in, if they even could get off the ship before it went down.

They were haunted by it.

Thanks for the post. This song is one of those immortal pieces of art that will be listened to and performed for centuries.

The loss of all those men had to have been a terrible loss to their loved ones and friends. Here is hoping the they found peace and healing. Rest in peace, brave sailors.

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