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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:21 PM Nov 2014

Try To See If You Recognize Your State On This Map. I Bet Ya Don't.

(EDITED FOR BAD SUBJECT LINE: "I'd bet half these people don't even know their mothers' maiden names..." which refers to the original link's headline.)

My apology for linking to click-bait (link at end, if you're so inclined). Just making a point here, as tenuous as it may be: These aren't even STATES and never were. They are the areas of the tribes "we" wiped out. I grew up in a beach town in Florida, and as the condo developers moved in, raped the dunes and built monolithic concrete slabs blocking out the sunrise from the rest of the town, one thing became apparent about development...you name the project after the thing you destroyed to build it.

Sunrise Condos. Ocean View Condos. The Dunes. The Sands.

Whatever you killed to build it, at least you give them the honor of naming your profits after them.

What's *your* state's original name?



Alabama (Chickasha) – The Chickasha also had a strong presence in modern-day Mississippi. Most were removed and relocated to south-central Oklahoma in the decade following the Indian Removal Act of 1830. Descendants reside there today.

Arizona (Ndeh) – Widely known as Chiricahua Apache, they currently reside on various reservations throughout Arizona, notably the San Carlos Reservation.

Arkansas (Ugakhpa) – Removed to Oklahoma in 1834. Today, they roll 3,240 deep. The name “Arkansas” comes from “Arkansea,” the name they were called by the Algonquian-speaking Illini people.

California (Chumash) – Before Spanish contact in 1789, they were 22,000 strong and lived in the territory stretching from modern-day Malibu to Paso Robles. By the mid-1830s, their “officially registered” numbers were down to under 3,000. Today, they live mostly on the Santa Ynez Reservation in Santa Barbara, where there are 249 residents.

Colorado (Hinonoeino) – In 1864, Col. John Chivington and his Colorado militiamen murdered an estimated 70-163 Hinonoeino (Arapaho) in a sneak attack that become known as the Sand Creek massacre. In 1999, two “Northern Arapaho” descendants named Ben and Gail Ridgely organized a group of runners to run from Limon, Colorado, to Ethete, Wyoming, in commemoration of their ancestors who were forced to escape Chivington’s forces on foot. Most Hinonoeino still live in Colorado.

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http://www.upworthy.com/try-to-see-if-you-recognize-your-state-on-this-map-i-bet-ya-dont?c=ufb1
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tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. I would've recognized my state because there's a big ass casino right down the road from here
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:45 PM
Nov 2014

named "Chumash".

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
3. overly simplistic
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 05:58 PM
Nov 2014

modern state boundaries don't correspond to former tribal areas - which varied over time. Just looking at California, for example- where are the Miwok and the Pomo and the Shoshone and all the rest?

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
11. The Hoopa, the Paiute, The Chupchan, the Ohlone. California was diverse before diversity was cool.
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:31 PM
Nov 2014

California had the highest population density in North America before European contact, and was home to around 500 different and distinct tribes speaking 300 dialects of 100 different languages (it's still home to more than 100 federally recognized tribes today). Almost a fifth of modern tribes exist in this one state today, and according to some estimates up to one third of pre-Columbian North American tribes may have existed only in the area now covered by California and Oregon.

To name the entire state after the Chumash, simply because they lived in the spot where a bunch of white people decided to build a big city, seems a bit insulting.

Hekate

(90,733 posts)
14. Thanks for the expanded version. The Chumash are local to my area, but even so....
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:54 AM
Nov 2014

....there are other towns in our county and those adjacent that are named for other tribes, like Nipomo.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
5. Well, since Alaska isn't even on that map,
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't know what to tell you.

What I am seeing upon looking it up is that Alaska is the way the Russian explorers pronounced Alakshak, the Alutiiq word for "the Great Land."

Native place names are very common up here, and the five major cultures are very much alive.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
9. Here in Thimogna
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:01 PM
Nov 2014

there are loads of places called Harbor something or other, or something or other Shores twenty miles from any body of water that's not a man-made retention pond. Places like Shady Pines, too, where there's no pines AND no shade!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
10. I was taught in Arkansas History class that the name "Arkansas"
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:15 PM
Nov 2014

was the French derivative of an Indian word that refererred to the Quapaw Indians, the "downstream people".

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
13. As someone from Massachusetts, mine was an easy spot,
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 03:44 AM
Nov 2014

but I can see where other people would have problems.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
16. I recognized two, Chumash, and Ndeh.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:25 AM
Nov 2014

Materially, I'm Chiricahua Apache (N'de)! Though Miwok, Yakut, Tashi, would have worked for Cali as well.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
17. I live in the land of the Miwoks.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 08:00 AM
Nov 2014

AKA Northern California, and I'm from the Wabanaki region (L'nuk is only one group of the Wabanakis)

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