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WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:06 AM Nov 2014

Jerry Brown... Too Old?

In picking up where Bill Maher left off, how do you feel about the possibility of a Presidential run by Jerry Brown? Is he too old? Is he qualified? What is your opinion on what he has been able to accomplish in CA?

Paige

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PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. Moonbeam has been good overall.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:14 AM
Nov 2014

A few things I disagree with him on but for the most part he's a positive. Give HIM a near veto proof majority and watch the country boom.

I don't think he's too old but he's probably too good for this dopey country.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
10. That is a very astute comment you made
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:54 AM
Nov 2014

"I don't think he's too old but he's probably too good for this dopey country." He is too good.

Sam

BP2

(554 posts)
4. The AVG age of repug senators is 60.4 yrs, while Dem senators AVG is 63.8 yrs old. Democratic
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:25 AM
Nov 2014

leadership: Pelosi and Reid look great, but are both 74 years old. By comparison, if Hillary were to be elected, she'd be 69 years and two months old on her first day of office.

Meanwhile, on Inauguration Day 2017, Jerry Brown would be just three months shy of his 79th birthday.

Ask any Millennial ... yeah, age is an issue here.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
5. I think ageism which has suddenly ballooned in our society is blatant discrimination
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:26 AM
Nov 2014

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This is not directed at you personally, but I see it and hear it almost everday from younger people.

Dividing society by pitting one group against another was a strategy Karl Rove heavily worked during the 2000 election: Christians versus non-believers; straight versus gay; rich versus poor; young people against older people. It truly saddens me to see how many people have fallen into this trap.

My generation (Babyboomers) for the most part made friends with people of all ages, different religions and different sexual preferences. I believe most people thought the wider one broadened one's perspective the better rounded a human being a person would be.

I personally have had friends two years old to ninety, and I am a better person for it.

So no, in answer to the question you pose. Age is a frame of mind and spirit, and Jerry Brown is one person who has always "had it" and probably still will for a long time to come.

When people ask me how old I am, I tell them I am timeless.

Sam

PS Here is a link which some might find interesting:

http://psychology.about.com/od/aindex/g/ageism.htm

Definition:

Ageism is a type of discrimination that involves prejudice against people based upon their age. Similar to racism and sexism, ageism involves holding negative stereotypes about people of different ages. The term ageism was first used by gerontologist Robert N. Butler to describe the discrimination of older adults. Today, the tern is often applied to any type of age-based discrimination, whether it involves prejudice against children, teenagers, adults or senior-citizens.


onenote

(42,703 posts)
6. Folks here had no trouble making age-related arguments against McCain
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:37 AM
Nov 2014

I thought it was a legitimate concern. And I think age would be a legitimate concern for Brown or even for Sanders, both of whom would be older on their first inauguration day than Reagan was on his second.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
8. I was not one of those people who factored in McCain's age
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:51 AM
Nov 2014

I did not like McCain's positions on issues or his bully-bully demeanor.

I guess we are just not going to agree on this. I would vote for Jimmy Carter if he decided to run again. He's eligible because he only served one term. I also support Sanders. He has a much clearer, cleaner perspective on things than many of his competitors.

Reagan? I was a Republican for twenty years before I left the party in disgust. I could not believe the Republicans chose to run Reagan. When people mentioned him, I just always responded, "He's just an actor, which, granted is an asset to a politician but not necessarily a recommendation for the highest office in this Country."

Sam

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. For me it's not agism, but wanting to have someone in the office that better represents
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:41 AM
Nov 2014

the younger generations. As I pointed out below, most of the presidents have been elected later in their lives (the past three presidents are the exception with Presidents Clinton and Obama in their 40s and President Bush in his 50s). In terms of race, with the exception of President Obama, most of them have been old white men.

My question would be is why shouldn't the younger generation have more of a shot instead of having presidents that are in their 50's and 60's. That doesn't preclude them from doing things as elder statesmen. Look at Carter and Clinton, both of whom have great legacies after their presidency.

The minimum age for president is 35, not 50.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. Yes he's too old.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:43 AM
Nov 2014

So is Hillary, so is Biden, so is Kerry. So is almost everyone whose name gets bandied about.

I find it scary that there seems to be no viable candidate under the age of 65 who is being considered as a Dem for the presidency. This is NOT the time in our history when we should be looking for an old person for the position.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. I tend to agree with you
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:31 AM
Nov 2014

Plus in the history of the US most presidents have been in their later years when elected.

Here is a list of the age of each president when elected:

http://deadpresidents.tumblr.com/post/30669443117/presidential-stats-age-at-inauguration

In contemporary history (after WWII) here are the ages of the presidents:

42-49 (3)
50-59 (4)
60-69 (5)

Granted the last three presidents have been younger than the ages have been historically. I think honestly we need to stay with the idea of giving the younger generation a chance to bring in ideas.

DavidDvorkin

(19,477 posts)
9. Too old and too bald
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 01:53 AM
Nov 2014

Neither should matter. Both do. I'd vote for him, and so would most DUers, I think, but he'd lose in a landslide.

Liberal Lolita

(82 posts)
11. No, but I'd like a good vice to be safe.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:43 AM
Nov 2014

Someone like Elizabeth Warren as his vice-president would be great. If he makes it through his term it sets her up to follow.

LostInAnomie

(14,428 posts)
12. I've always liked Jerry Brown.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 04:58 AM
Nov 2014

He probably would have made a good president. But, 76 is pretty old. He would be almost 79 by the time he would be inaugurated.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. I think personality matters more than anything
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:17 AM
Nov 2014

when it comes to Presidential runs.

I'm 28 so I always go back to when I was a kid. I always rooted for Clinton in the elections because he came across as very likeable, much more than Dole and I didn't know shit about politics. If anything, I was under-the-impression he was one of the worst Presidents of all-time based on my sit-by-the-radio-when-Rush-is-on grandpa, basically the entire Mom's side of the family is conservative with evangelical aunt, uncle, & cousins.

I don't think its a coincidence the scholastic kids election has predicted the winner except for two, Dewey over Truman & Nixon over Kennedy though that last one kinda invalidates the theory. I have no idea if Nixon did come across as likeable at-the-time but the before-my-time impression is completely the opposite. Truman could tell he was a crook but he is was ahead of the curve in a lot of ways -- Look up the "Did Moses take a poll..." quote. He actually is the most likeable President to me of the 20th century but only black-and-white print leads me to that.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
15. I'd like to know that the guy I vote for will be around at the end of his term.
Tue Nov 11, 2014, 05:34 AM
Nov 2014

So yes, his age concerns me.

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